Live updates from the Republican debate courtesy of USA Today if you don’t want to give Fox the views.

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    “We need education in this country, not indoctrination in this country,” Ron DeSantis said.

    Says the one who is at the forefront of indoctrination in schools.

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      No, ya see, indoctrination is when we tell kids to respect one another’s differences and teach them all about the world. An education is when we teach them “America rules” so they become good little worker drones without complaints. /s

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      I always hate when nuclear is dumped in with fossil fuels.

      The fossil fuel industry has been hamstringing nuclear since the 50s. (the Rockefeller Foundation did some “research” on the safe doses of radiation in the 50s, and then lied and said that there was no safe dose, even though we all swim through a safe dose every day of our lives).

      Oil money has then paid for anti-nuclear regulation that makes it almost impossible to build a plant on time and on budget, while also being the wrong regulation to actually make nuclear as safe as it can be.

      As an advocate for nuclear power, it’s maddening to see these fossil fuel tactics work time and time again.

      Hell, the fossil fuel industry also helped twist the environmentalist movement against nuclear. The Rockefeller foundation helped found Greenpeace, and kept the money flowing for decades with the requirement that Greenpeace fight against nuclear power. Friends of the Earth was directly founded by a West Coast Oil Baron for the express purpose of being an anti-nuclear alternative to the (at the time) pro-nuclear Sierra Club.

      All because these ghouls wanted to make just a little more money from Peaker Plants (which are legally allowed to charge exorbitant fees for “emergency” power production)

      The current US grid has more Peaker Plants than ever, all because of the fact that wind and solar are intermittent, and yet have priority on the grid. Base load plants don’t handle unplanned changes in power demand well. Peaker Plants become the only option. So either methane or some sort of oil based fuel.

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        Conservatives push for nuclear, not because they actually want it, but because they are hoping to create a big political shitfight that will take years to resolve. It’s a delay tactic, allowing fossil fuels to continue to be profitable for as long as possible.

    • Jordan Lund@lemmy.oneOP
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      It’s active hostility to higher education from those on the right, because once you’re college educated, you tend to be more left leaning.

      https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideological-gap-between-more-and-less-educated-adults/

      "Highly educated adults – particularly those who have attended graduate school – are far more likely than those with less education to take predominantly liberal positions across a range of political values. And these differences have increased over the past two decades.

      More than half of those with postgraduate experience (54%) have either consistently liberal political values (31%) or mostly liberal values (23%), based on an analysis of their opinions about the role and performance of government, social issues, the environment and other topics. Fewer than half as many postgrads – roughly 12% of the public in 2015– have either consistently conservative (10%) or mostly conservative (14%) values. About one-in-five (22%) express a mix of liberal and conservative opinions."

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        If companies in Republican states didn’t attract tons of out of state workers, the companies would have to leave. The GOP has killed their supporters’ prospects of jobs when you increasingly need more education and training in today’s world.

        And Republicans aren’t even satisfied with that. Their abortion bans and attacks on LGBT people are making workers reticent to hire onto companies that want them to work in red states.

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    “I want to see how people conduct themselves” says the voter whose top choices are Donald Trump and Ronald DeSantis.

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      This is clown shoes plus the honking horn and squirting flower…

      “After I gave myself to Jesus Christ …”

      Sadly, Nikki Haley looks sane, and that is baffling to me …

      Also, how is this being run like an NFL game??

      • zorb@sh.itjust.works
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        Same here. Finding myself agreeing with Nikki Haley for a moment there made me realize how far right they’ve gone. I know it’s the republican primary, but… sheesh

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    “Consensus is the opposite of leadership” eeesh Mike. So if 60% of America agrees, the leaderlike thing to do is argue with them?

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      11 months ago

      It does seem to be a very undemocratic statement, doesn’t it? Par for the GOP course.

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    Ramaswamy is a used car salesman. I wouldn’t put money on him actually believing any particular statement that left his mouth. Absolute grifter.

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    I especially liked the part where Desantis froze and needed to reboot before giving his closing statement.

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      Well, China is supplying it South of the border.

      The big dealers in Portland are all Honduran.

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          Legally, that’s kind of shaky ground. You’re talking about disrupting trade between two independent nations.

          Not sure how we’d even go about it these days. Waaaaaay back in the day we’d hire privateers to pirate their ships.

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            If the Mexican government is condoning the import of a substance that is designed to kill humans, that is a different conversation.

            Pretty sure they don’t want this any more than we do.

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              Fentanyl isn’t designed to kill humans, is a pharmaceutical which, improperly used, CAN kill humans.

              Source: Was on fentanyl for my open heart surgery. Did not die. Bonus: Propofol too! Oxy afterwards!

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                Yeah, when it is pharmaceutical fentanyl. In ICU, we maintained people through horrific circumstances on fentanyl/versed drips.

                But now, there are pressed pills and cocaine containing norfentanyl, carfentanyl, etc that those expecting illicit xanax or simple crack etc get dead from.

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          Hard to cut off something that one person can make in a basement. The current supply chain is just the most economical.

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    You could replace all of them with animatronics controlled by ChatGPT, and no one would know!