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Nice meme but pls
Any reason why? I also like the templar from path of exile.
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Lol I didn’t even know it was drake, I just thought it was some guy
What’s a Drake?
A drake is a four legged dragon that lacks wings, but that’s not important now.
I think it’s a male duck
It’s like a Tate, but Canadian.
Not defending Drake, but he’s definitely not nearly as mush of a monster as Tate.
Of course not, he’s Canadian.
Maybe same text just laforge format. Fediverce is star trek.
Trying to claim the term “Web3” is a futile battle. It is already widely understood to mean crypto and blockchain. If I see a job posting that says the company is built on Web3, I know immediately that the job is built on scams and grifts without having to ask further questions. Web3 as a term is ruined already.
For this to work it must be a different term than Web3. Maybe “Web 3.0” is different enough?
Time for Web4
I suggest forking Web3 into at least three competing things
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Can Web3-D be unnecessary VR integration?
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Just do what USB does and call it “Web 3 v2”
Web 3 v2 final (1)
Note that not all Web 3 v2 final (1) features are required to be labeled Web 3 v2 final (1). Please consult vendor documentation to determine which features are supported on their device.
Web 3 v2 final (1)++ Remastered Advanced with Knuckles Pro Edition
Is it the Japanese Director’s Cut?
Web69
also Web 3.0 was already a thing (semantic web), cryptobros just stole the term.
Which is pretty much what activitypub is a part of.
“Web x” is dumb marketing speak. It exists because people who use the phrase can’t intelligently talk about the actual underlying technology.
I think it’s useful terminology, but only very generally and in hindsight. Web 1 is a pretty clear era in the 90s and early 2000s, characterized by simple static blogs and personal websites, and email. Everyone knew this would be big, but nobody figured out how, that was the dotcom bubble. Web 2 began with the rise of big tech companies like Google and Facebook in the late 2000s, it has been characterized by social media apps, centralized platforms hosting user created content, funded by targeted advertising and data mining. Web apps became possible and smartphones took over. Every product became a subscription service.
I think we’re at the start of web 3, but it’s hard to say what that is yet. The big tech companies are crumbling and there’s increasing unrest at the old system of web 2. Fed up users are turning to platforms like this. There’s a lot of demand for crypto nonsense like NFTs. AI is changing the way we do everything.
I hope that web 3 is the age of decentralization because that would be awesome, but it’s impossible to predict the future.
Abusing terminology, especially by marketers, is frustrating and cringe. But don’t underestimate the value in having a simple, shared term to describe a paradigm many things fit into.
Or perhaps Web 3.1. But seriously, I would call it the Federated Web.
Web 3.1 for Workgroups?
The FedWeb
Can’t quite put my finger on it but something about this doesn’t sit right with me
Feds Web
The Feb
It’s not a bad idea but federated is the term they’re using to tell everybody not to get off reddit because it’s too confusing.
I think whatever name you give it they’re going to try to sell it as being too confusing.
You could call it distributed web but they’ll taint that as soon as you stick it in front of them
Blockchain and crypto are both decentralized, which is exactly what Web3 is defined as. Just because they came before federated websites doesn’t mean the definition is exclusive to them. I would call “Web3” ruined, rather I would say that ActivityPub is the first great implementation of it.
PS: The distinction between Web 3 and Web 3.0 is giving me some real USB 3.2 Gen 1 vibes.
Web3 usually means it’s decentralized. So yes, in most cases it’s cryptocurrencies
But most cryptocurrencies aren’t decentralized!
What? That’s the whole point of crypto currencies.
Not the scams, which are most cryptocurrencies.
Web 3.0 was the semantic web.
How about Fweb or Feb?
Web Cubed
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I mean… We are getting to a point where die off of a good chunk of the World-Wide Web due to bad actors and drying-up ad revenue isn’t implausible. The Web is only one part of the Internet.
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Dumbass lemmy.world hot takes
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They’re not defederated, only specific communities are blacklisted from syncing on lemmy.world.
If they were, they wouldn’t be able to post in any lemmy.world communities or even comment on any posts of lemmy.world.
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I mean lemmy.world does actually kinda suck. They block piracy communities, don’t know a shit about cyber security and can’t keep their servers online for more than a day before they go down. The only reason why people use lemmy.world is because they want to avoid lemmy.ml.
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If Reddit can host a piracy community, why can’t lemmy.world do it? I made an account the day lemmy.world defederated with that community. After I noticed that I immediately deleted my account and switched to sh.itjust.works and lemm.ee is there as a backup. But you’re right, we shouldn’t hate on innocent lemmy.world users who don’t know any better. It’s not their fault that the admins are such morons.
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Right, but AFAIK he hasn’t even received any legal complaints. He could have done nothing, and only defederate when some shitty media company complains.
Lemmy.world is the normie us-centric lemmy server
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Normie land is reddit. If you can’t think critically then best leave
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Web3 is a game changer. Try to escape the bubble of info you’re consuming on these pro imperialist instances
but how do I give someone .0045 cents for no apparent reason??
Don’t forget the 40 dollar transaction fee
The only people that think this is correct are ones that learned about crypto 5 years ago and never thought to update their information. The lightning network allows for tiny bitcoin transactions with sub one cent transaction fees. In addition to that, the transactions happen in less than a second.
As long as you have a channel with that person preconfigured and funded right? Otherwise you need to do an on chain transaction with on chain fees to set up that sub one cent transaction.
No. I have opened up exactly 1 channel with 1 other person years ago, and it was done automatically when I installed the app. Since then I have been able to send and receive bitcoin to anyone I’ve wanted to instantly and for a miniscule fraction of the amount that I have sent. I am really surprised, I had no idea that so much misinformation was being passed around amongst people who have never even decided to try it themselves or even look into it deeply at all.
It’s also centralized and just a bandaid over an issue that could have been solved if Bitcoin had stayed true to its original intention, i.e. digital cash, not a fake store of value.
It’s also centralized
Nothing about lightning is centralized, unless you think bitcoin itself is centralized.
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/s3tvox/is_lightning_network_decentralized_why/
Great explanation by someone who isn’t a maximalists. Sorry but yes it is.
Haha. Fees are high and it’s impossible to open a channel because of that? That’s beyond stupid…
No, it’s centered around large nodes, that’s the point they’re making.
Over 50% of the network’s capacity in the hands of 5 entities?
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/vo86ki/over_half_of_all_lightning_network_capacity_is/
Shit’s decentralized as fuck yo!
Heck, Bitcoin itself had the majority of its hashrate coming from a dictatorship where the state needs to have a representative in all major companies… One move and the Chinese government had control over the network.
#decentralization
This is absurd. Anyone who has the slightest idea of how it works knows that it is in no way centralized. It isn’t hard to learn how it works.
Everyone who believed this was true lost a lot of money betting on Bitcoin Cash.
Oh and show me people who bought Bitcoin in early 2021 that haven’t lost cash please.
Man, why is every one of your comments just wrong?
01.01.2021: 23902
today: 26143
Oh sorry if I don’t keep up to date to the daily movement of Bitcoin… I mean, I wouldn’t have because it’s a store of value and the basic principle of a store of value is the ability to use it and be guaranteed to have what you put in or close to it…
Cherry picking, look at a log chart
So is saying that everyone who bought Bitcoin cash lost money considering today isn’t all time low.
It’s not as if I was here to defend Bitcoin cash, I’m here to point out that Bitcoin and lighting network is flawed though.
At least Bitcoin cash stayed true to the goal of Bitcoin. A peer-to-peer electronic cash system.
That was also untrue. Electronic cash doesn’t imply no/low transaction fees. Basically everything they told you was a lie.
Show me where in the whitepaper does it mentions storing value, please.
No/low transaction fees and ease of transaction is the main point of cash vs barter, Bitcoin abandoned that, now you have to go through the trouble of using level 2 to have small fees and quick transactions, what’s the point of Bitcoin then?
Monero transaction fees goes brrrrrrrrrrr
It’s less than 10 cents
GNU Taler. Ah, question was rhetorical :)
Really wish Taler to be available for use in the first country.
Me too, I really like the concept, also have demo-purchased by app with it. Hope it will become usable reality at some point.
This could be so awesome for electric scooters or anything tradicionally having coin insert.
Even if/when GNU Taler launches, somehow I don’t think the VC-backed app scooter companies are going to be adopting anonymous payments anytime soon.
Noooooooooo, you can’t like things that can evade stupid and needless monetization!
it’s insulting to consider cryptocurrency or blockchain as any kind of next generation thing
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Until it comes tax season and you’re not rich to hide it
So tax fraud?
… keep being insulted by reality, then?
To me it feels like how 3D tvs were. Cool tech but not enough people hopping on board to make it mainstream so it stagnates and fizzles out. I could be wrong of course
Oh, yes. Good luck preserving the value you spent your life creating in your cash/fiat money while the printer goes brrrr. When bank bail-in happens to bail out the rich, I’ll be laughing my *** off. I bet you don’t even know what bail-in means. It basically means the banks will take your money to bail themselves out, like Cyprus in 2010s. It’s the plan if a crisis happens. Read about it.
Also, I hope you enjoy the social credit system after Central Bank Digital Currency becomes a normal thing, and then be cut off the financial system for being a “bad boy” with a press of a button. Today Nigel Farage is the bad boy, tomorrow it’s you (but you’re good boy, aren’t you?).
Your corrupt politicians can’t pry my cryptocurrency out of me even if they wanted to. They won’t even know how much I have. I can, on spot, drop everything and leave to a new country when things get bad (they never do, now do they? I gotta stop with the conspiracies… things are perfect)
Chickens will come home to roost. I guess we all pay for our decisions after all. That’s what life is about. That’s why I care not when people lose their life savings because they trust governments. They chose that.
Your corrupt politicians can’t pry my cryptocurrency out of me even if they wanted to.
All they need is a $5 wrench lol
You mean a $5000 wrench. The government can’t appropriate a wrench for just $5.
I ain’t reading allat
Monero is an ok cyrptocurrency because its not designed to make you money. Its designed to launder money and buy illegal things. Its useful if youre trans and live in Florida where hormones will be illegal.
Anyone who thinks crypto will replace money is high. The problem with capitalism isnt money. You cant fix it by inventing different money.
Of course you won’t… why would you? Enjoy being a poor slave. That’s what you guys do. Never read.
sorry what are you saying? I can only see googoogaga repeated a bunch
I feel like maybe you could have been more hostile. Why dont you try again, and really let it out this time!
Crypto bros love to bring up CBDC, like we don’t have a centralized banking system with credit cards already lol. I wonder if you’re libertarian!
I hate the term Web3, the name itself feels like gaslighting. It tries to imply like it’s the next step for the web. It’s just grifting and is absolutely impractical lol.
Notice how Web3 blew up because of insane VC money, then suddenly dies what feels like overnight. They didn’t care about decentralization, otherwise they’d actually invest in non Blockchain bullshit. But then they can’t scam with crypto coins.
Because it fucking gaslighting. I remember having this WTF moment when I was reading the O’Reilly Ethereum programming book.
If web 2 was html 5 and css3, how does a protocol that relies solely on money being transacted make the basis of web3?
This sounds exactly like a VC plot. “There will be money exchanged on every transaction”. I bet they lost their minds in the pitch room when they heard it.
VC’s are where the hype is, all those AI companies will disappear too when the AI hype dies.
And that’s the circle of silicon valley. AI with last longer though, it has actual practical applications and already is generating a ton of money. It’ll start to die down once more people realize that its hallucinations kill a lot of its applications, which we’ll need another technology breakthrough for that. It’s a problem that’s possible to solve though. I just hope for the collapse of OpenAI.
Certainly, that’s why I said AI hype. Machine learning is already invaluable in many fields. Its ability to generate new content, is certainly not flawless, but already has some uses. I just hope that the hype dies down and companies stop putting pointless and flawed AI integration in their products to please investors.
Look at me is federated and decentralized
I am the web3 now
I call it web3.0++ its web3.0 after the concussion wore off.
Web 3.1, this time with realistic use cases!
I’m gonna wait for Web 3.11 For Workgroups.
Nah, we renamed Web 3.0 to Web 3.2 Gen 1 to be less confusing, you’re thinking of Web 3.2 Gen 2.
USB standards has entered the room.
Or web 3.0 minus. As in minus that libertarian bullshit.
Don’t forget about nfts there the future man they can’t be replicated man where can you spend 100k and by the end of the week your investment is worh $3.50
NFTs weren’t created to be the proof of ownership of digital art, they just happen to be associated with that because that’s what the majority of them were created for.
The NFT isn’t the art that can be copy-pasted to any computer, it’s the proof of ownership. Criticizing them by saying “I can just download a copy of the picture!” is like saying copyrights are useless because you can use tools to rip movies from streaming services, sure you “own a copy”, it doesn’t make you a rightful owner of it from the perspective of the law.
NFT’s also don’t implicitly make you the rightfull owner. The basketball NFT’s content still explicitly belongs to the seller. The only true way for NFT’s to work for digital content is to have a contract that specifically states that the NFT proves ownership, but you might as well write it directly in the contract at that point.
This specifically depends on the project producing the NFTs. Some grant full ownership while some do not.
That’s his point - NFTs don’t actually solve any problem here, they just add an extra step.
I fail to understand your point. What extra step? You either get ownership or you don’t based on the asset you’ve acquired. NFTs don’t have alto be a once size fits all kind of thing. You are just oversimplifying it. The same can work for physical objects that you purchase. Vehicle manufacturers make it to where you can’t service your own vehicle sometimes because of special tools needed… So do you really own it? Hmmmm
I buy a picture from you, I get a receipt proving I bought it.
I buy a picture from you on an NFT marketplace, I get an NFT proving I bought it.
What value does an NFT provide in this case? I guess it provides a better proof of the purchase but that hardly seems worth the effort of setting up a wallet and acquiring crypto (for the average person at least). Not to mention the seller also needs to do these things, and I fail to see how he will benefit in this case.
Maybe in a hypothetical world where everyone uses crypto this will make more sense.
I’ll just use a small example… Let’s say you have an NFT for a online casino project. Simply holding the nft in your wallet will give you a weekly payout (certain percentage of profits for that week/month)
I use this example because nfts can have many different uses. Another would be gated communities/gated access to online services. Hope that helps it make sense a little
I buy a picture from you on an NFT marketplace, I get an NFT proving I bought it. What value does an NFT provide in this case?
In this case, assuming you’re a trader in this example, you’d be banking on whatever art you purchased to gain further value so you can then sell your certificate of ownership and make a profit. This is no different than art sales/trades IRL. Here’s an art gallery owner discussing using NFTs as certificates of ownership for real world art sales and the added benefits over traditional COOs.
But there worthless because digital art is intrinsically less valuable than real art
Real art = analog art? I need to tell all of my electronic musician buddies.
How? Please elaborate.
A real piece of art will always be more valuable than some electronic picture
No, I asked that you elaborate, not that you repeat the same thing using different words.
The intrinsic value of any art is what someone is willing to pay for it.
For example the world’s most expensive NFT, The Merge by Pak, sold for $91.8 million. Its price was higher than the sale of Jeff Koon’s Rabbit, the most expensive artwork by a living artist at auction. It’s all about personal tastes and how deep folks wanna dig in their pockets with this stuff.
Thats insane stupid people with more money than brains
I would see that crypto and blockchain scam as more like the last breath of Web2, given the monetization thing
No. Web2 is about user generated content (as opposed to the static pages of Web1) - crapto stuff hardly fits the bill. Like it or not, it really does belong to Web3 - which is about decentralization.
Now that’s a definition I can get behind.
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The web was always decentralized though. In fact Web 3 brought more centralization. Everything is in the cloud now, which is really just two or three main data center operators. That’s my techno luddite take.
Federation was we 1.0 people forget all major chatting services used to be integrated. You could have a yahoo im show up on your aim chatbox.
Holy cow
Wait until you hear about XMPP (and it’s bridges).
The problem is, you cant pay with that lol
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Why pay?
Electricity costs money unfortunately
Raw cash?
The rawest
That’s what I’m talking about)
I’ve been calling it web 1.5. It feels a lot like the web before web 2.0, but leverages improvements in technology and knowledge since then
