I understand that there was still much good about the Soviet/Eastern Bloc system and shortages and all didn’t always happen and revisionism would eventually cause all sorts of issues. However, I’m looking for a detailed answer (feel free to send links too) to what actually caused the infamous economic struggles that many people faced (which apparently isn’t just completely bourgeois propaganda) in the Soviet Union and other Warsaw Pact nations (particularly in their later years).

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    3 months ago

    i wrote a comment about this a while ago. reposted:

    1. WW2 destruction and recovery. Around a third of the population was either dead or wounded. The most industrially and agriculturally developed areas (for one Ukraine) were devastated. After the war, USSR was economically and politically isolated, they did not benefit from the Marshall Plan like western europe. USSR invested into the eastern block to rebuild cities and industries there. A capitalist country under such economic and demographic strain would fold in 5 years imho. Later on, there were huge investments into the military industry, including support to socialist revolutions around the world, which put more strain on the economy.
    2. Increasing economic complexity. After the war, the amount of commodities/materials/indicators in the economy has increased exponentially. As there was a labour shortage (see point 1.), the economic planning model had to be adjusted to accommodate the capacity of the Gosplan. There was a point where cybernetics was considered, but the idea was dropped for being quite experimental and costly to implement. So instead, a retreat to markets was implemented in the form of Kosygin reforms (profit was created as an indicator, other indicators were simplified etc.).
    3. Kruschev and dilution of party goals. During his leadership, Kruschev implemented party reforms that have diluted its class character and down-played importance of struggle (like the anti-Stalin speech for instance). It was one of the issues that flung the party and USSR into a spiral of “reforms for the sake of reforms” rather than analysis them as either a retreat or advancement towards communism.
    4. Sabotage and public property misuse (corruption). The limited market reforms + party ideological crisis has created a certain “proto-capitalist” class that mainly consisted of factory managers who often appropriated public property for personal gains. They were the main proponents (as a class) for market reforms, but they only really gain power after Gorbachev’s liberalisation and legalisation of private enterprises. Before Gorbachev, this class was very marginal and could be dealt with anti-corruption measures and modernisation, policies that were proposed by Andropov in 1982.

    to conclude, there were no deeply ingrained issues, but a lack of capacity, imposed by the war and global isolation.

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      3 months ago

      Asking out of curiosity: how much would OGAS have been able to resolve or minimize these issues?

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        We will never know. To speculate, I would say that it would have resolved the issue of economic complexity, but it leaves a lot of questions on implementation. How resistant is the system to tampering? How is the economy modeled? How centralized is the system?

        A proper implementation of OGAS would probably have taken a decade or two to test and debug so it could run reliably on a national scale. Considering that the USSR has a great shortage of computing power (due to sanctions mostly) I’m not sure it wouldve been possible to complete OGAS.

        And then, you still have labour shortage and party organisation issues that OGAS does not solve.