This is the state of the online left in private. When they are telling you that you’re an evil red fash and give bad optics to the left, remember this is what they act like in private.

They also started talking about trans athletes, and when someone pointed out that there are women with too high testosterone (naturally, biologically) who were barred from competing, their answer was that these women take pills now to compete so it’s all good. Then they started talking about weight classes and said there should be race classes. Unfortunately I don’t have screens of this convo.

I wanted to share these pictures because as MLs we have to remember a few things from this.

  1. We are principled. And we must remain principled.

  2. Most of these people are kids, so remember that next time they call you an authoritarian tankie.

  3. For all their talks of optics (appearing better than fascists), it is clear they don’t care about any of it. To them good optics is letting everyone do and say whatever because it’s their personal freedom.

  4. Finally, this is the effect these “breadtubers” have on people. If anyone reading this still thought they could prevent people from veering to the right, they do not. They just dress up liberalism into a vaguely progressive outfit. There is no theory that can be absorbed from these “responding to prageru” videos. When the person giving you the lecture themselves has a shallow understanding of socialism, this is what you turn into.

  • @CriticalResist8OPA
    6•3 years ago

    I mean, if I didn’t believe communism could work, I wouldn’t be one. The theory is sound and communes work, but I don’t believe that buying property to install your private or semi-private commune on it is anything like socialism. I was recently told of Christiana in Denmark for example, and after years of going through controversy after controversy, they decided to buy the land piece by piece (at a preferential rate from the government) so they could finally resolve the gray legal area they were in. Now they’re just private property and can do whatever they want on their land within the bounds of Danish law.

    In their early days, the Hells Angels controlled the drug trade which until 2016 was their whole economy basically. You could go down the main avenue and buy all the weed you wanted from the stalls that were there 24/7. Though it was always limited to cannabis, they banned hard drugs. A few people died from it (from gang wars or police intervention) and that’s why they decided to stop selling drugs altogether. I would have to see Christiana myself to get a definitive idea but from my reading it seems very much like a petty bourgeois “you can’t tell me what to do” dream. A big debate the commune faced was about the use of cars; since it’s right in the middle of the city, cars used to drive through all the time without living there and that was bothering the residents.

    I can support them insofar as the land is prime real estate and if the government booted them out they would just gentrify it and sell it to rich people. But if the libleft allows themselves to criticize both America and China, then I allow myself to criticize both America and anarchism.

    Likewise the big example the libleft likes to point out, Mondragon Corp, is a federation of corporations (so I’m not sure how much of a worker’s coop it is, they federate other corps under their name) and liblefts like to say it’s the biggest worker coop in the world. But Huawei is actually the world’s biggest worker coop - they have 2.5x as many employees as Mondragon does. Although from Huawei’s website they say only 96k of their employees are share-owners, that still gives them more share-owning employees than Mondragon as well as a bigger revenue and areas served. There may even be a bigger coop than Huawei in China so, who knows.