First of all, I just want this war to end. I don’t support Russia, or Ukraine. (this should not be that hot of a take but here we are) The whole sUpPoRt rUsSiA stuff is stupid, considering that Russia is yet another capitalist country that, while it is anti-USA, is just trying to be a competing bourgeois imperialist country. Russia is not “anti-imperialist”, Russia is just lesser imperialist. This is not “ultra-left”, this is the correct Marxist path. “Ultra-left” would be saying that China is capitalist. People who say that “Xi Jinping supports Russia because he talked with Putin” are also dumb because Xi Jinping talked with Zelenśkyj too, and he definitely does NOT support Ukraine. Also, there a bunch of Wagner supporters here, and do I even have to go into detail about why supporting LITERAL mercenaries is stupid? The only correct solution is to end the war immediately. Russia is not the 2nd coming of the USSR and is more akin to WW2 Britain than WW2 USSR. Putin is not another Stalin, Putin is Russian Churchill. This right-deviationist line here needs to end and Lemmygrad has to return to a principled Marxist line. Also, Pušilin is transphobic and has also given awards to literal Nazis, so supporting Pušilin over Zelenśkyj is just stupid. They both suck, and peace is the only way out.

  • @xenautika
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    -71 year ago

    agreed. people are literally siding with Russian capitalists over Ukranian workers. taking simplistic, unprincipled stances on this… why? is it because liberals hate Putin so people have to be contrarian to spite them? Do they really believe every Ukranian in Ukraine is a Nazi and isn’t suffering in the crossfire?

    it’s so dogmatic, and un-marxist.

    • loathesome dongeater
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      111 year ago

      How does one in practice “support” workers of Ukraine in this situation?

      • @xenautika
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        -11 year ago

        how do you support any workers in this conflict, not being involved? foreign money is siphoned to the oligarchs. unless you have some expert connections directly to Ukranian workers, the best way may be to be openly critical of jingoist narratives such as parroted about Russia, differentiate from the Ukranian state and Ukranian workers and conscious leftists any time someone simplistically generalizes Ukraine as “Ukronazi” or “Banderites” or “NATO puppets” etc, and to directly support Russian, Balrusian, Polish and Baltic communists, who all are impacted strongly in this conflict.

      • The Free PenguinOP
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        1 year ago

        and not every Ukrainian is a fascist, but communists (even less principled pro-Z ones) are heavily persecuted in (the) Ukraine.

        • @xenautika
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          not sure why my comments are not posting/getting deleted but i do outdoor labor and am too tired to repost my more detailed reply so just gonna say I agree. and the threat of both ukraine and iran’s ruling classes being annihilated positioned themselves as national heroes who could freely promote reactionary thought and frame it as national identity