Mainly because a lot of the problems these guys are talking about just not materilaizing within the franchise have existed since like 2012.
Too many quips? Avengers 1, Dark World and Age of Ultron were infamous for this.
Every new movie is a sequel hook? Iron Man 2 was a 3 hour trailer for the Avengers, and this series popularized post credits scenes
Bad Special Effects? Phase 1 films looked like they were cooked up in about a week because their sets were so cheap.
Bad writing/Too much bait and switch? Remember how mad fans got over Iron Man 3 with the Mandarin twist?
I think all this discourse is less about Marvel “not being good anymore” and more about people starting to unconsciously realize that mindless corporate shlock isn’t actually that gripping once you start holding it under the microscope. Like this series has been going for 16 years and hasn’t actually changed, of course you’re sick of it.
i’d say DC has some pretty big misses but can also churn out decent movies every once in a while. The new batman movie is very good imo, far better than anything marvel has produced in the last 15 years - just on the account of it having SOME creativity compared to marvel’s lack thereof
Fr, but DCEU went to complete shit, I’m at least hoping Bale could return as Batman along with Keaton.