What is this hexbear rule? We are becoming the strawman fascists are making of us Edit: furthermore I think this does not help federation at all, I think we should follow the same principle that is used in extradition: it must be illegal in both states in order for the person to be extradite, or it needs to be illegal on both platforms to be removed, but again, that might lead to problems if a community deems racist jokes, for example, not illegal so we can’t do much about it, it’s an headache. Edit 2: i think I could be misunderstood easily, Im not attacking the platform, just saying that that’s a generally stupid rule.

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      I consider myself a vehement proponent of animal liberation and have a great deal of respect for radical veganism and advocate policies of reducing meat production and consumption. I’m a vegetarian and have been for almost 7 years and I’m never going back, just not strong-willed enough (yet) to go whole hog (pun intended) into being a vegan.

      With all that out of the way, I agree with you 100%. This is the same shit as banning people from online spaces for being “ableist” when they call Nazis idiots. It’s weird ass power-trip LARPing and as much as I respect and believe in radical veganism (up to and including actual policy) the revolution will not be won by this lifestylist caricature of communism. Doubly ditto on your pointing out the hypocrisy of them caring about pictures of food while refusing to eliminate misogynistic language from their vocabulary and supporting the sex trade up to and including advocating for state-sponsored sexual assault facilities for incels, it shows the anti-humanist core of their beliefs. I’m all for deconstructing anthropocentrism, but this is not the way.

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      It’s merely for the personal feelings of these types, the same types who will laugh at and upvote a sexist meme format with the b-word, a slur against women that many men including those who deign to call themselves progressive and these days increasingly even “Marxist” feel free to throw about abusively without a thought.

      Where are you getting all this from? Is this something you saw on Hexbear?

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      I mean to me this is “the revolution-less, ineffectual, naval-gazing WESTERN left” personified. You don’t see AES countries obsessing about this, you don’t see their parties publishing papers and enacting policies while losing their minds over animal welfare. You don’t see their theoreticians busy thinking and writing on it. Because it’s a far off problem for another generation. A bridge beyond the horizon. Yet people here will freak out about it and make a rule, draw a line in the sand over it.

      As I don’t need to figure out how communism will be implemented and the particulars of that because I’ll be long dead, I also don’t need to figure out how this works, how we are supposed to approach this. Nor will I live to see a time where there is the right conditions for experiment to try and find a path.

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        I hope this rule is not brought here.

        Hexbear has some truly awful rules and practices and if this place has the same rules and federates with it, it becomes it which is to say a non-Marxist space that I will find more taxing to use. I don’t mind going there sometimes but I’m here 10 times as much because they have a lot of problematic behavior and takes.

        One last thing. Many vegans are very anti-humanist. I find it very disturbing. I find their spaces disturbing. I find their circlejerks over the animal suffering over the world-wide human suffering which I consider the pressing matter to be a distraction and a depressing and unproductive one which is getting off the productive path to Marxism and that’s just one of the reasons I don’t want an explicitly vegan space.