I once asked about that, how does they want to reach the statelessness from what we currently have, since all current societies are class societies. I expected he would answer something like “revolution” since they had at least that point covered usually, but no, he started to debate pervert me with some not very related things. After wading though that for i while it turned out he didn’t understand what “class society” means and how it relate to the state. He also completely couldn’t parse any concept of having anything transitional or even the transition itself.