DS9 is my favorite, from seasons 5 to 8 it’s the best Star Trek imo. But it does have some horrible episodes, I had to skip some of them.
The thing about TNG, is that there’s no overarching plot. Events just happen and most episodes feel completely disconnected, unlike DS9 where everything was building up to the war. That’s the thing that irks me the most, but it was still great and I loved watching the episodes on television when I was a kid.
Voyager to me, just kept getting more boring as time went on. The cast was also significantly weaker than the rest.
Today the only real Star Trek to me is The Orville, New-Trek is just corporate garbage.
I feel like each had its own audient obviously. Like TNG has no in depth overarching plot other than a few running mini plots that they go back to from time to time. It’s more of an episodic show to just watch and enjoy the little mini plots as they come. And lots of ppl are in to that. It was a good show for me to sit down and watch while drinking and studying during my college years.
I think DS9 had a really good villain setup. Best of the three by far. The villains in that show are fairly consistent so you not only get familiar with them but build up on them. Also aided by the overarching plot and the fact that, like Voyager, the crew were basically on their own for the most part. That’s what made their plot and Voyagers better than TNG imo. Unlike DS9 though Voyagers plot didn’t allow them to have a consistent group of characters that weren’t star fleet or “off ship.” Other than the Borg there wasn’t a lot of options for repeat villains/outside characters. So most of those characters in the show had to be fairly 2 dimensional one offs.
Personally Voyager will always be my favorite but I will admit to bias because that was my first Star Trek as a kid. Being such laid the foundation for not being sexist or racist and also the fundamentals that made me a communist I think. I mean, it just never made sense to me why ppl cared that the captain was a woman or Tovok was black. Like that didn’t register to my kid brain so I grew up and was like “yeah women can do whatever they want and what does skin color fucking matter to anything?” So yeah, definitely have a soft spot for Voyager.
What about Star Trek Enterprise? I actually like that one. At least they still try to push somewhat progressive ideals that a better (communist) future is possible. I don’t consider it New-Trek.
We talking about the one with Captain Archer before they even had shields and stuff? I don’t really know how I feel about that one. Like, it was a fun little show but it didn’t really feel like a “true” Trek, if that makes sense? Like a hybrid where they were definitely trying to go deeper into an action drama type show with a Star Trek theme. Definitely not this “new Trek” dogshit for sure. I enjoyed it for what it was. I feel they did a decent enough job making it feel like a society that would grow into what the future society is based on the other treks.
The ending was hilarious though. Ending with them randomly bringing back Riker and Troy talking about the whole thing as a historical holodeck simulation. hey had both obviously been brought back in last minute and had both very obviously let themselves go. lol
Supposedly Voyager’s ‘wooden’ cast were specifically told to not emote too much by Berman so as to make the aliens seem more alien. Not sure how that works when you just make your human cast feel weird and unnatural lol.
DS9 is my favorite, from seasons 5 to 8 it’s the best Star Trek imo. But it does have some horrible episodes, I had to skip some of them.
The thing about TNG, is that there’s no overarching plot. Events just happen and most episodes feel completely disconnected, unlike DS9 where everything was building up to the war. That’s the thing that irks me the most, but it was still great and I loved watching the episodes on television when I was a kid.
Voyager to me, just kept getting more boring as time went on. The cast was also significantly weaker than the rest.
Today the only real Star Trek to me is The Orville, New-Trek is just corporate garbage.
I feel like each had its own audient obviously. Like TNG has no in depth overarching plot other than a few running mini plots that they go back to from time to time. It’s more of an episodic show to just watch and enjoy the little mini plots as they come. And lots of ppl are in to that. It was a good show for me to sit down and watch while drinking and studying during my college years.
I think DS9 had a really good villain setup. Best of the three by far. The villains in that show are fairly consistent so you not only get familiar with them but build up on them. Also aided by the overarching plot and the fact that, like Voyager, the crew were basically on their own for the most part. That’s what made their plot and Voyagers better than TNG imo. Unlike DS9 though Voyagers plot didn’t allow them to have a consistent group of characters that weren’t star fleet or “off ship.” Other than the Borg there wasn’t a lot of options for repeat villains/outside characters. So most of those characters in the show had to be fairly 2 dimensional one offs.
Personally Voyager will always be my favorite but I will admit to bias because that was my first Star Trek as a kid. Being such laid the foundation for not being sexist or racist and also the fundamentals that made me a communist I think. I mean, it just never made sense to me why ppl cared that the captain was a woman or Tovok was black. Like that didn’t register to my kid brain so I grew up and was like “yeah women can do whatever they want and what does skin color fucking matter to anything?” So yeah, definitely have a soft spot for Voyager.
What about Star Trek Enterprise? I actually like that one. At least they still try to push somewhat progressive ideals that a better (communist) future is possible. I don’t consider it New-Trek.
We talking about the one with Captain Archer before they even had shields and stuff? I don’t really know how I feel about that one. Like, it was a fun little show but it didn’t really feel like a “true” Trek, if that makes sense? Like a hybrid where they were definitely trying to go deeper into an action drama type show with a Star Trek theme. Definitely not this “new Trek” dogshit for sure. I enjoyed it for what it was. I feel they did a decent enough job making it feel like a society that would grow into what the future society is based on the other treks.
The ending was hilarious though. Ending with them randomly bringing back Riker and Troy talking about the whole thing as a historical holodeck simulation. hey had both obviously been brought back in last minute and had both very obviously let themselves go. lol
Yes, that’s the one. Everyone hated the last episode, actors included.
Supposedly Voyager’s ‘wooden’ cast were specifically told to not emote too much by Berman so as to make the aliens seem more alien. Not sure how that works when you just make your human cast feel weird and unnatural lol.