• QueerCommieM
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    9 months ago

    They don’t do it for simple sadism, they have Israel test ways to be cruel so their own military can when “necessary” and so they can teach USian pigs how to crush dissent when we inevitably rise up like BLM.

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      9 months ago

      We don’t need Israel to test ways to crush dissent in the United States. We have been on the cutting edge of that particularly cruel science since before we were a nation.

      The Israeli are not teaching, they are learning… They are utilizing techniques we mastered when we stole the damn country. Broken treaties, Reservations, starvation, and finally utilizing a raid against civilians as an excuse to commit a genocide.

      This is basically King Phillips War (1675-1678) being played out in modern times. Its a story of colonizers who forced natives off their land with treaties, and then broke those already asymmetrical treaties. Provoking retaliation raids, which they used to justify a genocide.

      This is a foundational piece of American history and is often cited as the birth of our national identity.

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          9 months ago

          Yes, the US are OG oppressors, but Israel is on the cutting edge. It is a material fact that Israelis train cops in the US in oppression.

          I think that’s comparing apples to oranges. Training police in small arm tactics isn’t the same as teaching a government how to suppress an entire group of people.

          Israel has yet to stabilize their monopoly on violence, something that the US has maintained for the last 200 years.

          I’m not even saying that the US doesn’t benefit from supporting an apartheid state, and they very well may utilize them to explore new ways to suppress populations. However, this is not intrinsic to their material motivations.

          If we perceive the scenario through the lens of historic materialism, it’s pretty apparent when and why the west began colonizing the region. It’s always been oil, and it will continue to be oil until we either exhaust the supply or the demand.