Statesian here. There are a CRAPTON of mass shootings here. If we do nothing about guns, the shootings will still happen. What is the leftist answer for reducing mass shootings without disarming the proletariat?

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    I don’t think the killing in US will ever stop so long as capitalism remains in charge. Most of these comments, while mostly correct, and discussing the symptoms that are causing the mass shootings while the underlying cause of those symptoms is being ignored. Fascist propaganda, white supremacy, mental health, etc? All these things stem from the same general source. They are all a product of rampant capitalism. Especially the mental health. We either don’t treat it at all or give people “antidepressants” that have been linked to erratic and violent behavior. All the stresses, social isolations, poverty, etc. that cause kids and adults alike to just go shoot up schools and shit. It’s all a product of capitalism driving the labor class insane. It’s meant to. To keep us killing each other and not the capitalists.

    Sure, you could enact laws against propaganda, better background checks, all that, but those things will never pass in the US’s hyper capitalist government. In theory they could work but in order for them to be put into practice you have to actually do something about capitalism. And if you end capitalism you get rid of a lot of the factors that cause the shootings in the first place.

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      I don’t think anyone here disagrees with this. It’s just that for those of us living in this shithole country, there’s got to be at least some policy to fight for that make things safer but doesn’t disarm us. Capitalism in the US isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

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        Oh I get it completely but the issue I see is that there won’t BE any real action or reform taken specifically because the capitalist system doesn’t want it to. It’s like how the vast majority support extended background checks but Congress will never touch that shit. America is so fucked it would take the ending of capitalism in order to implement any of these ideas. At least that’s how it seems to be from my point of view of the society… God I hate it here.

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          You and me both. We’ll just have to settle for being fucking paranoid everywhere we go.