maybe it’s because i studied engineering at a public state university but i have no idea about what “socialist indoctrination” right wingers are always saying there is, if anything i saw the opposite
“college is liberal indoctrination”
It’s right there in the name: “Liberal Arts”
A thing you will see in med school is someone presenting a graph showing you black on fucking white that private hospitals are a plague which can be justified on neither a deontological nor utilitarian ground and telling you it’s important to have public private partnerships and we should probably consider some kind of private voucher system.
Combination of college being the first time many people start to seriously think about politics and that many social science disciplines refer to and/or were founded by Marx.
Real. I took a geography course out of curiousity, and there’s even Marxian analysis in that too! Crazy. I think that is why they think universities turn you into a communist.
It couldn’t be further from the truth though, most are libs.
totally. the farther i went up within the academy, the more in the tank the institution was for praising large capital formations as a necessary partner (re: donor) in directing research and education priorities.
the “bleeding heart libs” may have been anti-chud, but they were also anti-union, paternalistic, and exploitative as fuck towards staff.
If you think about how right-wingers’ generally tend to call anything left of themselves socialism, then it makes more sense that they think university & media “socialist indoctrination” is a thing.
A welcome sign, but let’s not forget that most Americans think socialism is “when the government does stuff”
yeah based on my conversation with usians its just people who think denmark is socialist
very true, but it makes it a lot easier to talk to them about the real stuff. ppl don’t immediately snap at hearing the Deactivation Phrase nearly as much anymore.
Deactivation Phrase?
“socialism” - used to tap into the red scare programming deep in the ancient reptilian brain much more (“communism” still does, on average)
Ah gotcha.
In a certain way, isn’t it a useful device to say to an average liberal or conservative that roads, schools, fire departments, sewers etc. are a form of socialism to try to convince them that socialism is good? I thought that it would be a good argument, but I’m still pretty ignorant about this stuff.
As an icebreaker? Sure, I don’t see why not.
But worker ownership of the means of production and economic democracy is so far removed from that that drawing a line between the two may be a challenge.
Got it, thanks!
Maybe it’s because the country’s economic resources are being directed at making chat bots that use so much power they are raising energy costs when housing affordability is about as bad as it’s ever been and there are tent cities in every city.
I wish socialist propaganda was as much of a “problem” in the West as the political far right claim it is. I can never get any when I want some, one wonders how these right wingnuts are getting theirs.
Socialism has always brought misery and oppression
It’s a good thing that misery and oppression don’t exist in Imperial America, then.
ummm you just did something called a whataboutism, which you’re not allowed to do
Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?
Oppression is only when the bourgeoisie is held accountable, misery is only when the bourgeoisie can’t own 6 mansions
He’s really gonna say this like this capitalist country hasn’t had its foot up my ass for my entire life, huh.
the worse things get the more people will be willing to consider alternatives
-marcks
Average Americans honestly don’t realize that many nations and people outside of the US suffer “misery and oppression” directly as a result of capitalism imperialism. They either literally don’t know (miseducation, no education) and/or don’t value other lives equally (racism, western chauvinism). Identifying the obvious contradiction in this '“just and moral capitalism” is what leads people to socialism and other beliefs. Given proper education and basic morals, it’s impossible to support capitalism.
90% of that 62% favorable think “socialism” means free healthcare and other social democrat policies.
Which short of China being overthrown and cut up into pieces to be devoured by the west for massive profits will never happen at this late stage of capitalism because the profits have fallen too much, there’s nowhere else to expand, and the greed and cockiness of today’s bourgeoisie is much higher than those who last century in fear gave concessions against the USSR.
It’s perhaps a step but it’s no guarantee it won’t just be recuperated to mean those social democratic policies, it in effect one could argue already has been recuperated. Once even 30% of the population say they support Marxism I’ll be a little more optimistic but I’m not holding my breath for the imperial core in the next decade seeing that.
But even this is going to get the bourgeoisie frothing at the uppity proles for DARING to dream they deserve healthcare, affordable education, a reasonable retirement age, reasonable prices on housing, food, etc.
Together we can build Red Pac Man
Half these people have natsoc in mind when voting in favor
