Like seriously, cars are such an irrational system it is no wonder it never really works in practice. Every city that goes the car-centric route ends up as a inhabitable shithole where people cannot drive anyway and have to spend hours stuck in traffic or looking for parking.

I guess an argument could made for a responsible motorcycles, at least people could be carefull if they find themselves in similar danger to a pedestrian.

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    I’m not familiar with the /r/fuckcars and !fuckcars@lemmygrad.ml communities. That being said:

    Is it considered radical here to say that I think cars should be banned in city centers?

    Because cars should be banned in city centers.

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      I made this community after missing r/fuckcars, but it should not be radical here to say that. They just cause air, noise, and visual pollution while killing many. The sub wasn’t explicitly anti capitalist, but this one will be

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    It is insane to think hauling that much weight around is at all safe or reasonable. I think e-bikes would be much better than motorcycles, lower speeds and greener. But yeah the difference in ability to survive is key. People hail cars as safe as if other cars are not the major danger to be safe from?

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      There is a sad cycle where I’m from where people like my mom, who is a good driver, buys larger SUVs every year because she is afraid of other, larger cars with worse drivers hitting hers’. Of course the real solution is creating the infrastructure for alternate modes of transport like you mentioned. (and probably a cultural shift in how we view transportation.)

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        Yeah, my parents are the same way. It’s an auto industry induced arms race to the largest car possible. I think a cultural shift is definitely necessary, and I think it’d be easier if the alternatives were already good. Unfortunately, it’s a chicken and egg problem of the alternatives don’t get funded because the culture doesn’t respect them, and the culture doesn’t respect them because the alternatives aren’t great

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      would rigging an ebike to hit its physical limit be allowed under socialism

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        I think we could have certain areas to allow unrestricted speed for people who want it, but for common commute paths I don’t think that’s necessary

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      Exactly. Real accessibility comes from anyone being able to use it. Large chunks of people can’t drive for this or that reason. Even larger chunks shouldn’t drive because they’re terrible at it, but most won’t admit it.

      Electric cars are not here to save the planet, they’re here to save the car industry and those fuckers can go rot in hell

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    As someone who lives in the suburbs, I don’t really have a choice. This and the rural parts of Connecticut simply weren’t designed for public transit. At best, I’d need a car to get to a bus stop, or to the train station serving NYC. Statewide, it’s a little better than it was even ten years ago, but only the biggest cities around here will remotely be considered car-free.

    At least there’s a cheap fast-charger near me, so car trips do wind up being inexpensive, and I’m not spewing pollution behind me as I drive by peoples’ houses.

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      I don’t blame anyone forced into driving, it’s an all too common problem. We need to be redesigning our cities and nations to allow everyone to not have to own cars. Really we should be very actively encouraging transit while disincentivising cars. America used to be the gold standard for rail and now it’s the laughing stock. No reason we can’t go back to leading the world in train amount or technology

      If you’re forced to drive, electrics best for sure, thanks for the step in the right direction.

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    imo we need HSR that can accelerate as quickly as a metro (make HSR lighter and stuff)