I have a question about communities. Are communities server-specific, for example, is the “Gaming” community on lemmy.ml different from the one on, say, beehaw.org and will I need to join both?

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    That’s right. !Gaming@lemmy.ml is different from !Gaming@beehaw.org

    Note that you can use your same account to subscribe to both of them, as one may be more active than the other. Feel free to pick one or both it doesn’t really matter. Different websites/servers have slightly different rules and different culture, so the posts and comments will be slightly different community to community.

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        It is different for sure.

        The “lemmy-verse” is really just a bunch of separate websites all running the same software that talks to each other. It’s like email, where you can send an email from a Gmail account, and receive it on an outlook account. The same concept being applied to social media now.

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        Its different from centralized services, and better. Rather than there being a single universal gaming community, people can make their own, with their own rules. If one gaming community has bad mods, or one server has bad admins, you can move to a different one.

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          If one gaming community has bad mods, or one server has bad admins, you can move to a different one.

          One of my favorite features of Lemmy. Makes taking over and astroturfing communities more costly.

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          wait, what about if you have two communities where mods and admins are fine. Are there any options to federate those communities?

          all this time I was under impression that communities already federate

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            There is not a single, god community. Any instance can make /c/startrek, and people can subscribe to both.

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              yep, that does make sense from security / moderation standpoint, as one “god community” would probably get Bad Apple’d ™ .
              but I would argue that “lol just manually opt-in to other communities” could be improved.
              I will go search through issues on GitHub to see which of my ideas were already proposed and which still need to be opened 👍

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              1 year ago

              Is it?
              On Mastodon I can take a look at “Federated timeline” and see the posts from the people that I have not followed. Because instances already federate by themselves (due to some other user on my instance following the user on other instance) but yes, I see your point

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                1 year ago

                Yep. Would be cool if we could subscribe to tags or topics so to speak. The 2 related gaming communities could then be grouped together in a federated view for the topic “Gaming”. At least for reading comments, not sure how posting would work.

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                  You know, I actually really like the idea of tags. I don’t currently have an issue with manually subscribing to similar communities on different servers (I’m often just browsing “all” to see all communities and all servers). But being able to subscribe to a tag would be cool. Then I could more easily identify and opt out of the communities I don’t like that match those tags.

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            1 year ago

            It’s just how the internet used to work before centralized US tech giants took over all comms platforms. Instead of one site, there are many to choose from.

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      1 year ago

      Unfortunately that breaks the concept of federation. I expected servers with good relationships with each other to replicate posts, otherwise what’s the point of federation?

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        The point of federation (on Lemmy) was to allow the different websites to talk to each other. So your lemmy.ml account can talk to most other websites that run lemmy software. This means create posts on external communities, comments, and be able to follow such communities. For now, the choice was made to keep communities local and not locally federated.

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          1 year ago

          It sounds more like identity federation. I think it’s going to be very confusing for a lot of people.

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        They do replicate

        So in this case @gaming@lemmy.ml and @gaming@beehaw.org are two different communities, both of which can be followed, and both of which federate to anyone that follows them.

        It’s similar to the way multiple closely related subs can exist on reddit. And it will resolve in the same way, with the users ultimately deciding

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          What you are describing is just a form of “remote following”, which is merely local caching of some content from another instance. As you wrote, each @gaming is an entirely independent community, even if the moderators are the same people across multiple servers. If an instance is shut down the community is gone. If the instance decides to throttle access and start charging money users have to pay or abandon the community. In short, this is not a significantly better user experience than traditional online forums. I’d rather have real federation.