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    8 days ago

    Because it wants to and China will let it. Oh we just want to be nice little boys that don’t interfere in politics. Ok, good luck with that when those ETIM extremists come your way.

    Edit: sanction turkey, like what good is economic power if you aren’t even going to fucking wield it.

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      I understand China’s non-intervention policy, but I still find it frustrating that they refuse to weild any of the power they hold in many cases.

      I usually just use that frustration as motivation to continue agitating in the core, as it’s our fault that these crises are happening in the first place.

      Though I won’t say that I’m not the slightest bit annoyed that China hasn’t sanctioned Israel as we’ve been attempting to pressure our university into divestment.

      I’ve definitely expressed on multiple occasions, when exasperated by university administrators, “what’s the point of challenging American Hedgomony when every Palestinian will be slaughtered before you do anything.”

      Usually I just go back to focusing on whatever is our next action because I know I’ve got no control over how the PRC operates so dwelling on hypothetical is pointless.

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        Same, it’s just my frustration with the PRC. I don’t have an ounce of influence but playing chess doesn’t matter if your opponent just flips the table over and beats the shit out of the chess master. They are literally advertising that they are going to fuck up China and break it apart. Like wtf does it take to know when someone will never be your friend.

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      I think the Chinese government is relatively hesitant to wield economic power. Using it and throwing their weight around is a real Pandora’s Box type of moment with a number of possible reactions, effects and consequences.

      China has spent decades developing up power and influence and it’s economy and technologically, and while countries across the world definitely use economic pressure, I think there is a risk that if China were to openly and aggressively use more economic pressure, especially to achieve a certain purpose, even if the context is way different and overall for the greater good, it could turn millions and millions of people against China or become more cynical or distrustful, since people could say “China is just as bad as the U.S. or Britain or Israel!”

      It’s completely stupid and ridiculous and unfair double standards and bullshit but it makes some sense.

      And given that China is still courting capitalists and probably will for decades to come, and is doing an excellent job of that and still being a firmly socialist country, the government may be afraid to rock the boat too much and scare off investors.

      It can be argued that people who are racist against China or who are distrustful will not like that no matter what, but people who are sympathetic or on the fence could be swayed negatively. I think it would depend on the specific context and outcomes that would have to be weighed for the government to want to use it’s economic pressure.

      Not to say that they shouldn’t do nothing, and alot of times in life you have to take bold risks, but regardless.

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        People already say China is as bad as the US or Britain. They invented a nonexistent genocide out of thin air and it somehow stuck.

        What i recently heard, and I hope it isn’t true is China doesn’t even show the horrors of Gaza in its media. Like what a golden opportunity to bolster the anticomprador elements and essentially show the world 24/7 the horrors of Gaza. Especially since Israel is one of the two countries that recognizes the “genocide”. Like come on, take the gloves off.

        Their foreign policy is trash, and I am saying this as someone that has tremendous respect for what they have accomplished. I thought I was just saying this out of anger at recent events, but I actually want them to save themselves while they help the downtrodden also. A farmer can’t negotiate with locusts, imperialists are locust.

        Edit: if israel says China is doing a genocide of Muslims, cut business ties and public state it’s because they are doing a genocide in Gaza. Make a giant show of it. Name a few streets after sinwar or haniyeh or nasrallah while at it.