Happy 20th birthday to this young child! Good luck blowing out all those candles.

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    It’s super cool how it’s now difficult and requires active attention to determine whether even a still image depicts something real or is a non-representation built out of computer generated noise and stolen dreams. I really love that for us I’m thrilled with it I kind of wish I was off my meds because I cannot scream at the right frequency when I’m not experiencing severe bipolar depression in the way this makes me need to scream.

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    I too like to put numberous straws in my [not baskin robbins] gallon of ice cream all smoothly domed like cake frosting. Oh and we had to do a 1 instead of 31 otherwise the copywrite nazis would hit us up for residuals knowing we trained AI on pictures with defunct logos and colors in them so we had to shop the OG input file to poison our own product and train it on an alternate reality.

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        Dad’s shaddow is going in a 2D plane as if an extention of his arm, not showing levels between the chair and the wal behind. As if the light source was strongly directly coming from his other shoulder instead of hitting his face.

        And opposite the birthday girl.

        Also are the kids triplets because they seem the same age, which is odd for a couple with three kids. You’d expect some 9 month stagger or a span of a few years. The boys look like they are clones jsut from different angles.

        How all the fingers have creepy pointed jagged ends.

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      That’s the trick. It isn’t anything. It’s a statistical representation of patterns of data that appear in image data with the appropriate tag words. None of the “things” in this picture are things, there are no representations of actual objects. It’s all math, heat maps, patterns in data. That’s why it gets fucked up at the edges and boundaries of things. There’s no mind that can understand the existence of abstract objects like “cake” and “candle” and “mom”. It’s just maths putting colors where they’re statistically most likely to go based on the input set, and those colors smear together at the edges.

      That’s the hardest part; Up until literally four years ago the only time we’d ever encounter an image that strongly resembled a human is if it was the work of another human attempting to depict a human. There’s no attempt at depicting anything here. Nothing is depicted. This isn’t an image of people. It’s just the averages of a bunch of numbers with colors assigned to them. It’s nothing. It’s so fucking weird and disturbing, like we barely, as a culture, have a conceptual framework for this nightmare.

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        There’s no mind that can understand the existence of abstract objects like “cake” and “candle” and “mom”. It’s just maths putting colors where they’re statistically most likely to go based on the input set, and those colors smear together at the edges.

        Nuh uh, according to credulous adventists like “FrightfulHobgoblin.” Just bolt even more of the damn things together and expand their planet-burning data centers and it meets and even exceeds all tangible aspects of human thought and mind. If you disagree, you believe in souls, you superstitious Luddite. smuglord

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          I’m going back in time to give the luddites a mecha.

          I hope I’m right about how these things work because I do not understand any of the math or programming behind them. All I know is that when a person draws a fucked up hand it’s because hands are really hard to draw due to hands being in all kinds of different shapes based on what they’re doing, and having many many different planes and angles and perspective doohickeys. But a person knows a hand is a hand. Show them a human hand with a five fingers, or six fingers, or a steel hook, or a grasping robot clow, or a lobster claw, or whatever, they can identify all of those things as a category of objects called “hands”.

          And the machines don’t do that. There’s no indication that the machine has a concept of an abstract object called “hand” that is the same object regardless of it’s actual appearance in a 2d image. There’s no evidence of a concept of a squarish meaty bit with four thing meat sticks and a fat shorter meat stick. It’s just blurs that resemble figures because the machine doesn’t “think” or “know” or “represent” anything when it outputs these images.

          And if I’m wrong, and there is something thinking in there, and it just fucks these things up because it’s entire perceptual world consists of datasets with no attached information or context? Fuck me, idk. The whole thing freaks me the fuck out because we really are getting in to the deep water of “If we did encounter a non-human intelligence how would we even know?” The people who think these things have human-like intelligence are massively ignorant dorks but I keep having spooky dreams about symbioses between trees and mushroom networks or the way ant hives engage in complex problem solving based on the simple, rules based action of individual ants.

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      goddd that thing is such a mindfuck to look at lol. It’s like you’re sure you’re looking at something real but it makes no sense. It feels like that time my alleged friend allegedly drank a bottle of robitussin

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      It’s getting harder and harder to tell, all at the low low price of even more burned down forests and dried up lakes. What a bargain!

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        I’m genuinely frightened that they’re going to fix the hand problem soon. It’s one of the last tells that’s reasonably consistently reliable. They’re going to build some engine that just does hands and interprets a correct hand orientation based on the position of the arms, looks up a 3d reference model because these things can’t abstract, and then sketches in a hand over the LLM generated image.

        It’s so fucked. We’ve evolved the uncanny valley response for god knows how many millions of years so we know when something is wrong with a face - it’s dead, or it’s a person who is seriously ill, or it’s not a person at all. And now they’ve mostly defeated that and we’re counting teeth and fingers.

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          I’m genuinely frightened that they’re going to fix the hand problem soon.

          I hate to break it to you, but that’s been varying degrees of solved for over a year. Most AI slop that just contains ludicrous basic errors is left unfixed because the people who spam AI slop are principally just incredibly stupid, lazy chuds slamming the treat button like it’s a gacha pull, but even something as basic as automatic1111 or its relatives allowed manual inpainting to reroll broken parts of the image, then added optional automatic secondary processes to detect faces and hands and run an automated inpainting process to fix them with dedicated “fix faces and hands” models.

          Now currently relevant open models range from “sometimes it doesn’t fuck up” to “the only tell is that proportions are subtly off and that sometimes there are continuity issues that give away that there’s not any sort of reality behind the image nor even an internal model of what is there in places you can’t directly see, but it’s less glaring than it used to be” and it’s only getting more horrifying. Looking at “realistic” models always makes me feel sort of sick, even beyond the rote kind-vladimir-ilyich response I feel whenever I look at civitai.

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          I’m pretty sure the hand problem will be fixed, all right… while breaking the planet we live in a little more in the trade.

          This entire Rube Goldbergian machine complex spends so much electricity and demands so much water and expels so much pollution just to try to convincingly trick us into believing it’s real, all because that’s the mandate of the owners of the damn things, and what’s expected from the slop hogs at this point.

          Asking someone to paint a picture might involve paying a worker. Fuuuuuuck that, this is THE FUTURE. so-true fire

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            It’s completely sick, capitalism’s obsession with cutting labor out of production taken somewhere I don’t even know how to say mean things about.

            On the plus side, though, I’m increasingly confident that my fears of these fucks perfecting terminators, wiping out the working class, and living eternally in their little New Zealand technobunkers served by a world of robots is unfounded. These toolbags have no idea what they’re doing, or they’re all trying to convince everyone else that it’s not a grift long enough to cash out.

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              Looking from the outside in, making an elaborate guessing machine that narrows down what the user wanted in the first place (minus the inconvenient workers) by doing a cryptocurrency style massive waste of energy that makes a lot of waste carbon is such an insidiously apocalyptic idea that it’d have been brilliant and fun fiction if we weren’t living it right now.

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    Look, sometimes as a birthday present to their young child, dads will swap a hand with them. It’s totally normal.

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    I like the smallest child hidden by the boy on the left with the giant hand reaching onto the table

    also dads one black stripe down his shirt’s right sleeve

    and the differences in the angles of the paintings hanging on the wall behind dad, does the wall curve like 15 degrees there?

    not sure whats going on with birthday girl’s right hand