because otherwise they’d probably be second at the current moment, tbh doomjak

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    66·
    3 months ago

    because otherwise they’d probably be second at the current moment, tbh

    The US military has killed 2 million people per decade every decade since ww2.

    The IDF does not even come close to the US military.

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      36·
      3 months ago

      16,000,000 still ain’t got nothing on the British Empire’s multiple man-made famines that replaced policies of giving food to people who were starving to ensure they didn’t die with new policies of not doing that because it enabled them to wield starvation as a cudgel against any and all forms of organized labor. The British Empire killed anywhere from 10 million to 200+ million depending on if you count doing nothing to address public health issues for the poor and especially the colonized as social murder (lib historians do not).

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        26·
        3 months ago

        Absolutely, the British empire was unfathomably evil, thanks in no small part to the incredibly open classism of the british aristocracy that never really evolved all that much over feudal times.

    • GaveUp [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      31·
      3 months ago

      Yea it’s been pretty lib seeing people act like Israel is a unique evil but like no, so many countries in the West have already done just as bad or worse but with infinitely better PR

      • FourteenEyes [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        25·
        3 months ago

        It’s really more the horrifying spectacle of it. In Vietnam people had access to rapid or sometimes even live TV news about what was happening in the war, and it changed public opinion drastically. Same with TikTok now. It’s hard to swallow any of Israel’s bullshit when you’ve seen footage of children screaming with bones sticking out of their mangled legs, crying near-skeletal because they can’t stand the unending pain of starving to death, plastic bags of 70kg of shredded meat each being counted as a person and whatnot.

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        17·
        3 months ago

        I saw a comrade say it once and I’ve been repeating it ever since because I know that even if you checked the numbers they’d be fucking BAD. I know for a fact that it’s true for the last few decades because the deaths in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and so on are all attributable to the US. Going further back we’ve got the Korean War. Vietnam. We could also throw in Yemen? Syria. Iran?

        It depends on what you want to attribute to them. But even being conservative the numbers aren’t gonna be good are they?

        Someone could do the numbers if they want, I’ve never felt the need to, that number is horrific and definitely feels right.

    • WhyEssEff [she/her]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      16·
      3 months ago

      yeah I know, just thinking that since she’s saying this aspirationally she’s talking like there’s another army to overcome, which implies Israel since we’re discussing wanton lethality.

      it’s already an instance of “we gotta turn the Hitler dial up” but if you were asking for a counterexample for any army that comes close w/rt unadulterated lethality it’s gotta be Israel, especially if we’re considering the American attention span

  • thelastaxolotl [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    60·
    3 months ago

    She also mention unlike Trump she will deal with the autocrats, which shows a foreign policy more agressive than Biden’s which combined with that policy paper from her team that criticized Trump for not striking Iran after their response for the assasination of their general, means we could see an Iran-US war during her presidency

    • Black_Mald_Futures [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      43·
      3 months ago

      oh cool the democrats literally giving me an actual non joking reason to vote for trump, that’s great

      I’m too lazy to do it so nobody fucking @ me about it, but like, jesus christ guys

      • thelastaxolotl [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        40·
        3 months ago

        It was from the Official Democratic Party platform

        All of this [ed: prior 3 paragraphs all about bs Biden did against Iran] stands in sharp contrast to Trump’s fecklessness and weakness in the face of Iranian aggression during his presidency. In 2018, when Iranian-backed militias repeatedly attacked the U.S. consulate in Basra, Iraq Trump’s only response was to close our diplomatic facility. In June 2019, when Iran shot down a U.S. surveillance aircraft operating in international airspace above the Straits of Hormuz, Trump responded by tweet and then abruptly called off any actual retaliation, causing confusion and concern among his own national security team. In September 2019, when Iranian-backed groups threatened global energy markets by attacking Saudi oil infrastructure, Trump failed to respond against Iran or its proxies. In January 2020, when Iran, for the first and only time in its history, directly launched ballistic missiles against U.S. troops in western Iraq, Trump mocked the resulting Traumatic Brain Injuries suffered by dozens of American servicemembers as mere “headaches” – and again, took no action

  • refolde [she/her, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    42·
    3 months ago

    This might be really controversial to say, but I think everyone who cheers this on should literally be crucified and put on display on every street.

    My moral standards have dropped considerably these past several years.

    • Amerikan PharaohEnglish
      3·
      3 months ago

      I think everyone who cheers this on should literally be crucified and put on display on every street.

      If white liberal society keeps up on the track it’s been on, I’m going to become the Black Joshua Graham by like. End of 2025.