(What follows is a reply to ComradePupIvy’s post on this, I quote them below)
Would you be shocked to hear that the Authors of this are Utkucan Balci, Michael Sirivianos, and Jeremy Blackburn agian? no, well this is there 3rd study and the 3rd one on Lemmygrad. This one being published in 2024.
However despite this being posted in 2024 there is nothing new in this study, and most alarming to me is that it seems to be not so subtly hinting that the Centralised web is the only safe way for the web to be.
Of course. Deplatforming is supposed to work. Liberals think by now we should have all been beaten over the brow and absorbed back into becoming MSNBC liberals (despite many here never having been that to begin with). The fact that a bunch of “extremists” such as us just moved when a mainstream website removed us and made our own space is alarming because the point to pro-censorship types like this of such moves is to “deradicalize” and push people back into the acceptable politics space.
Of course it’s silly to look at a bunch of Marxists who have real grievances against the liberal system, the western-led order, imperialism, etc when you could be looking at how the more extreme parts of the right have been pushed out of the mainstream sites at various times like reddit’s banning of The_Donald and other subs or their long lurking for that matter on the depths of the extremities of the internet like the chans. But that wouldn’t get much funding for these losers because actual social sciences field academics have already written many better papers on those types and the field is kind of full.
These types have no answers to Marxism as anything but this curious aberration, this problematic thing that disagrees with them yet they refuse to study it enough to know why, they just know it’s against “proscribed good things” therefore must be bad thing and extreme. So it’s not how to address our grievances and re-integrate us (as say China did with people exposed to US funded extremist material in Xin’jiang) but more about how to crush, scatter to the wind, etc. And it’s frustrating to them that attempting to crush us and scatter us to the wind just led us to making our own space.
Hatred of an open internet results, proposals for clamp-downs, against individual liberty and other things liberals on the surface claim to care about and be for though of course they’re too cowardly and intellectually empty to actually explore the implications and leave that up for others. And is this turn a result of any personal horror they’ve experienced? Some mass tragedy? No. It’s because they’re angry at those darn tankies who corn-cobbed them on twitter or something. (More likely they’re just failed ‘academics’ who can’t get any funding for anything better, this is a half-assed paper fishing for some money to put nicer bread on their table for a while)
(What follows is a reply to ComradePupIvy’s post on this, I quote them below)
Of course. Deplatforming is supposed to work. Liberals think by now we should have all been beaten over the brow and absorbed back into becoming MSNBC liberals (despite many here never having been that to begin with). The fact that a bunch of “extremists” such as us just moved when a mainstream website removed us and made our own space is alarming because the point to pro-censorship types like this of such moves is to “deradicalize” and push people back into the acceptable politics space.
Of course it’s silly to look at a bunch of Marxists who have real grievances against the liberal system, the western-led order, imperialism, etc when you could be looking at how the more extreme parts of the right have been pushed out of the mainstream sites at various times like reddit’s banning of The_Donald and other subs or their long lurking for that matter on the depths of the extremities of the internet like the chans. But that wouldn’t get much funding for these losers because actual social sciences field academics have already written many better papers on those types and the field is kind of full.
These types have no answers to Marxism as anything but this curious aberration, this problematic thing that disagrees with them yet they refuse to study it enough to know why, they just know it’s against “proscribed good things” therefore must be bad thing and extreme. So it’s not how to address our grievances and re-integrate us (as say China did with people exposed to US funded extremist material in Xin’jiang) but more about how to crush, scatter to the wind, etc. And it’s frustrating to them that attempting to crush us and scatter us to the wind just led us to making our own space.
Hatred of an open internet results, proposals for clamp-downs, against individual liberty and other things liberals on the surface claim to care about and be for though of course they’re too cowardly and intellectually empty to actually explore the implications and leave that up for others. And is this turn a result of any personal horror they’ve experienced? Some mass tragedy? No. It’s because they’re angry at those darn tankies who corn-cobbed them on twitter or something. (More likely they’re just failed ‘academics’ who can’t get any funding for anything better, this is a half-assed paper fishing for some money to put nicer bread on their table for a while)