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    internet liberal mode on

    HOW DARE YOU BE SO SELFISH AND ASK FOR STUDENT LOANS WHEN THERE ARE BRAVE FIGHTERS FOR DEMOCRACY BEING GENOCIDED BY TOTALITARIAN PUTLER!!!111 STOP BEING SUCH SUCH SELF ABSORBED SNOWFLAKE!!!11 SLOBODA UHANI!!!11

    internet liberal mode off

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      I honestly wonder how many more military recruiters are gonna pop out of the woodwork on college and high school campuses now. Ugh.

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        Pretty sure we’ve had posts about them ramping up recruitment already

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    Haven’t peace negotiations been offered already, but denied several times? By the mythical Zelensky himself no less

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      Haven’t peace negotiations been offered already, but denied several times

      Yes, because they keep demanding inane stuff like “Return of all occupied territories, reparations, removal of Russian chauvinism from school program and Putin put on trial in Hague”.

      Then western politicians pay a visit and even these demands change to “There can be no peace with ruZZian occupants!”

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          Well that would depend on your definition, I suppose. They’ve been an independent country for thirty years, although even at the height of Yuschenko madness the ties remained close. A lot of people speak Russian in Ukraine, pretty much all over the country. There are clips of politicians, those brought to power by Maidan no less, struggling to speak Ukrainian. And yet, I don’t think it’s correct to just handwave it as being “pretty much Russia anyway”. That’s the kind of sentiment that serves to fuel the nationalist propaganda. Material conditions matter.

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            Right. I have no idea. I’m not Ukrainian or Russian so I can’t speak for either, it just seemed to me that Ukraine and Russia are so close linguistically and culturally that it’s just difficult, I think, to draw a line. As somebody who was there when this was all beginning I’m honestly still very confused and I can’t wrap my head around the severity. At Maidan everything was super concentrated to the city center and outside of that life was on as normal (in Jan 2014 thru July 2014 when I was in Kiev). I think it would be tough to be Ukrainian. A lot of my friends have left Ukraine and immigrated to Poland or the US because it got to thepoint where it was impossible to support themselves and or their families