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      Russiagate was the greatest thing that could’ve happened for liberal politicians

      They get to continue doing nothing, and their voter base ravenously attacks anyone who dares to criticize their politicians as kremlin propagandists

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      Hello Biden, it’s Zelensky Netanyahu. We need five billion rockets to bomb Donetsk Gaza children. Slava Ukraina !תהילה לישראל

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            Not sure about that. But the Soviet Union did try to set up an alternative to Israel which they started putting more effort into after realising mistakenly supporting Israel to begin with. The Jewish Autonomous Oblast, which still exists today.

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              I knew about the JAO, but had to look up Crimea to be sure. It was suggested to replace the tatar population and was pushed heavily by the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee before they got purged post ww2

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                Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee

                Hmmm

                In 1952, as part of the persecution of Jews in the last year part of Stalin’s rule (for example, the “Doctors’ plot”), most prominent members of the JAC were arrested on trumped-up spying charges, tortured, tried in secret proceedings, and executed in the basement of Lubyanka Prison.

                I dispute that. The only person that was killed in Doctor’s Plot was the person that fabricated the claims against the doctors.

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                  Yeah I didn’t want to get into the weeds but part of the project falling through was the shutting down of of the JAC. The purging of the JAC is fucked up, but libs feel the need to tie it to the Doctors’ Plot for no reason. They are very different in how they got prosecuted and why. Stalin doesn’t really comment or seem aware of the prosecution of the doctors’ plot after the initial finding that there was no wrongdoing, whereas he did comment on and had ideological disputes with the JAC at the end.

                  It is actually what started to divide him and Molotov politically. Another part of the liberal need to use tragedy as a cynical cudgel is calling the execution of the JAC leaders the “night of murdered poets” trying to compare it to the Night of Long Knives and Night of Broken Glass. One of which means comparing them to NSPD members, the other is comparing the wrongful execution and harsh treatment of a few Jews accused of Zionism with the outright slaughter of Jews for merely existing.

                  It is really gross. And even by wikipedia standards there is no fucking reason to mention the doctos’ plot in that sentence. They just get over giddy at being able to mention what they perceive as atrocities. But yeah they definitely did get executed, that’s indisputable. Why, was it justified, etc are all debatable, but it had nothing to do with the doctors’ plot charges

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    Right!

    Here’s what he could do, though:

    • Stop funding israel and pumping billions into its economy every year;
    • Stop selling arms to israel
    • Don’t threaten to invade or sanction the ICC prosecutors;
    • Don’t say “if israel didn’t exist, the United States would have to create one”;

    And much, much more…

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      Don’t say any body who criticizes isreal is antisemitic.

      Don’t quadruple down on isreali talking points by insisting it’s not a genocide.

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    So Bibi is intentionally trying to hurt Biden and get Trump elected so Biden’s plan is to… Support them 110%, corroborate their lies at every turn, run cover for them at every opportunity, and give them a blank check? So either he’s Genocide Joe or he is single-handedly the most incompetent politician to ever exist and actively trying to lose the election. These people are fucking morons

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      Listen, Biden can’t control the billions of dollars of weapons he literally bypasses congress to give to Israel while they are openly carrying out genocide

      Liberals really think we give a fuck about minute semantical differences like ‘he isn’t explicitly doing it by himself, he’s only giving them the money and guns while saying they’re not engaging in genocide’, while also believing that anyone who despises Biden for that is actually a Russian troll

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      That’s been the complaint from day one. Actively stopping Netanyahu is probably a bridge too far for our AIPAC-addled political class. But maybe not helping him could be possible? Pretty please with sugar on top?

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    Biden isn’t the one committing genocide, which is why he propagated Israeli lies in the aftermath of the Oct. 7th attack and in the aftermath of every publicized Israeli warcrime.

    Biden isn’t the one committing genocide, which is why he has continually stated that Israel has a “right to defend itself” as a justification for said genocide.

    Biden isn’t the one committing genocide, which is why he sent two carrier groups to the Mediterranean as a show of force in support of Israel in the region.

    Biden isn’t the one committing genocide, which is why he continues to send weapons to Israel.

    Biden isn’t the one committing genocide, which is why he initiated Operation Prosperity Guardian and bombed Yemen, one of the few regional actors actively attempting to stop the genocide.

    Biden isn’t the one committing genocide, which is why he recently pushed Congress to fund Israel as a part of aid package to continue or provoke more wars around the world.

    Biden isn’t the one committing genocide, which is why he ardently opposed every ceasefire proposal brought to the UNSC.

    Biden isn’t the one committing genocide, which is why he defended Netanyahu after the ICC put out an arrest warrant against him for committing war crimes.

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    God it’s always so fucking infantalizing.

    We know isreal doesn’t give a shit what he thinks, hates him and makes decisions in spitenof him if anything.

    Which is why it’s even easier he’s committing public career suicide by quadrupling down on all their talking poi t while sending them the bombs they use to do the genocide.

    We understand he isn’t writing isreali foreign policy, will libs admit to the equally incredibly obvious conceit that by giving isreal free bo.bs and bombers we are facilitating their bombings?

    Or is this another one of those situations where we’re the only ones constrained by a materialistic analysis of reality.

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    Biden could cut ALL military aid to Israel, including defensive aid for things like the Iron Dome AMS that clears the sky of Hamas and Hezbollah rockets aimed at Israeli civilians and Bib would still have all the resources he needs to do whatever he wants in Gaza.

    big-honk Then why are we sending the goddamn aid. Either they need it and that’s leverage that someone with a single principled bone in their body can withdraw, or they don’t need it in which case Biden is just doing it as a hobby he picked because the crochet class was full? Why do these arguments work on people?

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    Then I guess it doesn’t matter if Biden gets re-elected because the president is actually powerless, a mere observer of world events, like the rest of us.

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    Anyone who calls this a war is a poor excuse for a human being and is that exact species of person that allowed the Holocaust/ Armenian/ Congo/ Sudan/ Bosnian genocides to occur with no pushback.

    Edit: These same people also do the same when trans people say they’re being targeted and are being marked for a future genocide.

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    I hate when libs try to pretend like Isreal is not just an extention of the US. Their view of geopolitics is the same as view of society. Its all just individual frictionless orbs floating in space