01 dec 2022 om 14:58Update: 28 minuten geleden The police intervened on Thursday at a demonstration by farmers in front of the province of Overijssel in Zwolle. Three arrests have been made. A tractor that was in the way has slid away. Mayor Peter Snijders of Zwolle has issued an emergency order prohibiting farmers from… Continue reading Police intervene in...
What part specifically do you think I should educate myself on in that article? It’s obvious that capitalist mode of production is the root cause of the contradiction here. However, last I checked there is no plan for Netherlands to transition away from capitalism which means the contradictions will continue to sharpen going forward.
Europe is capitalist and as the capitalist system continues to fail it will translate into anger leading to civil unrest which we’re seeing. The right is currently capitalizing on this crisis because there is no effective left in most European countries.
In fact, the article you linked says the exact same thing I’m saying:
The main problem is that there is no working-class alternative to the Rutte government. The old Labour Party is looking to fuse with the left-liberal Green Left, which clearly shows how weak they have become after decades of co-managing austerity. The left-reformist Socialist Party has bureaucratically expelled most of its remaining left wing and has degenerated into a chauvinist party which wants to attract voters from the far-right by copying their anti-immigration positions, and thus attracts neither the advanced working class nor radical youth.
Well, despite your confrontative and manipulative discussion style, I hope you learned something from the article linked. But it is clear that discussing these things rationally is not possible with you.
To sum up, you’ve ignored everything I said, claimed that I omitted some context in the quote, but won’t say what it is. And then you bail claiming that it is I who is not capable of discussing things rationally. Gotcha.
Read the article that I linked. It includes a lot more details and background than that single selective quote conveys. Do you want me to repeat the entire article here?
Good God, use as many quotes as you need! If you really care about rational discourse so much then actually lay out your argument in detail, don’t try to weasel out of it without engaging with the question.
The argument is that a certain person here constantly spams the /c/Europe community with low quality and even intentionally misleading articles from right-wing tabloids while having very little understanding about the political and economic landscape of Europe in general. I am trying to get them to understand the dynamics behind these protests a bit better, but they refuse to reasonably engage and continue to peddle highly selective and manipulative BS.
Edit: in addition it is much less effort to spread BS than refuting that BS in detail. I have already put in significantly more effort into it than reasonable and I am getting tired of that.
Just because you can’t understand how the economy works doesn’t make it BS. Also, stop claiming that I don’t understand the dynamic behind these protests. I’ve explained to you repeatedly why the right is on the rise in Europe and why people on the actual left need to have real answers rooted in material conditions.
What part specifically do you think I should educate myself on in that article? It’s obvious that capitalist mode of production is the root cause of the contradiction here. However, last I checked there is no plan for Netherlands to transition away from capitalism which means the contradictions will continue to sharpen going forward.
Europe is capitalist and as the capitalist system continues to fail it will translate into anger leading to civil unrest which we’re seeing. The right is currently capitalizing on this crisis because there is no effective left in most European countries.
In fact, the article you linked says the exact same thing I’m saying:
You are quoting very selectively again here ;)
Oh, do elaborate on what relevant context this quote misses.
Well, despite your confrontative and manipulative discussion style, I hope you learned something from the article linked. But it is clear that discussing these things rationally is not possible with you.
To sum up, you’ve ignored everything I said, claimed that I omitted some context in the quote, but won’t say what it is. And then you bail claiming that it is I who is not capable of discussing things rationally. Gotcha.
This is not an answer to their question
Read the article that I linked. It includes a lot more details and background than that single selective quote conveys. Do you want me to repeat the entire article here?
Good God, use as many quotes as you need! If you really care about rational discourse so much then actually lay out your argument in detail, don’t try to weasel out of it without engaging with the question.
The argument is that a certain person here constantly spams the /c/Europe community with low quality and even intentionally misleading articles from right-wing tabloids while having very little understanding about the political and economic landscape of Europe in general. I am trying to get them to understand the dynamics behind these protests a bit better, but they refuse to reasonably engage and continue to peddle highly selective and manipulative BS.
Edit: in addition it is much less effort to spread BS than refuting that BS in detail. I have already put in significantly more effort into it than reasonable and I am getting tired of that.
Just because you can’t understand how the economy works doesn’t make it BS. Also, stop claiming that I don’t understand the dynamic behind these protests. I’ve explained to you repeatedly why the right is on the rise in Europe and why people on the actual left need to have real answers rooted in material conditions.