01 dec 2022 om 14:58Update: 28 minuten geleden The police intervened on Thursday at a demonstration by farmers in front of the province of Overijssel in Zwolle. Three arrests have been made. A tractor that was in the way has slid away. Mayor Peter Snijders of Zwolle has issued an emergency order prohibiting farmers from… Continue reading Police intervene in...
Good God, use as many quotes as you need! If you really care about rational discourse so much then actually lay out your argument in detail, don’t try to weasel out of it without engaging with the question.
The argument is that a certain person here constantly spams the /c/Europe community with low quality and even intentionally misleading articles from right-wing tabloids while having very little understanding about the political and economic landscape of Europe in general. I am trying to get them to understand the dynamics behind these protests a bit better, but they refuse to reasonably engage and continue to peddle highly selective and manipulative BS.
Edit: in addition it is much less effort to spread BS than refuting that BS in detail. I have already put in significantly more effort into it than reasonable and I am getting tired of that.
Just because you can’t understand how the economy works doesn’t make it BS. Also, stop claiming that I don’t understand the dynamic behind these protests. I’ve explained to you repeatedly why the right is on the rise in Europe and why people on the actual left need to have real answers rooted in material conditions.
Did you read the Marxist article I linked? It very clearly explains why it isn’t in the interest of the left to participate in or support these protests that are manipulated by the extreme right against a center-right government.
If you fail to acknowledge that, even though the article explains it very clearly in Marxist terms I can only conclude that you are arguing in bad faith and are in reality a right-wing troll.
I did, and as I’ve repeatedly said I entirely agree with it. You seem to be confusing the fact that I’m pointing out that there is public unrest with me endorsing right wing organization. I have to assume that you’re intentionally confusing this since I’ve explicitly pointed this out as a danger.
As the article very clearly explains, the left needs to be able to connect with people and to provide an alternative to the right wing narrative that addresses their material concerns. Again, I’ve stated this in prior threads and you never acknowledged this.
Either you have piss poor reading comprehension or you’re intentionally making a straw man ignoring what I say.
Good God, use as many quotes as you need! If you really care about rational discourse so much then actually lay out your argument in detail, don’t try to weasel out of it without engaging with the question.
The argument is that a certain person here constantly spams the /c/Europe community with low quality and even intentionally misleading articles from right-wing tabloids while having very little understanding about the political and economic landscape of Europe in general. I am trying to get them to understand the dynamics behind these protests a bit better, but they refuse to reasonably engage and continue to peddle highly selective and manipulative BS.
Edit: in addition it is much less effort to spread BS than refuting that BS in detail. I have already put in significantly more effort into it than reasonable and I am getting tired of that.
Just because you can’t understand how the economy works doesn’t make it BS. Also, stop claiming that I don’t understand the dynamic behind these protests. I’ve explained to you repeatedly why the right is on the rise in Europe and why people on the actual left need to have real answers rooted in material conditions.
Did you read the Marxist article I linked? It very clearly explains why it isn’t in the interest of the left to participate in or support these protests that are manipulated by the extreme right against a center-right government.
If you fail to acknowledge that, even though the article explains it very clearly in Marxist terms I can only conclude that you are arguing in bad faith and are in reality a right-wing troll.
I did, and as I’ve repeatedly said I entirely agree with it. You seem to be confusing the fact that I’m pointing out that there is public unrest with me endorsing right wing organization. I have to assume that you’re intentionally confusing this since I’ve explicitly pointed this out as a danger.
As the article very clearly explains, the left needs to be able to connect with people and to provide an alternative to the right wing narrative that addresses their material concerns. Again, I’ve stated this in prior threads and you never acknowledged this.
Either you have piss poor reading comprehension or you’re intentionally making a straw man ignoring what I say.