he’s gonna get blown out in the lowest-turnout election in modern American history
In the lib brain - American civil religion is the most important thing in the universe and voting is a sacred covenant. The typical r/politics redditor the night of election day will unironically say…
Look, if people had turned out - Biden would have won and our democracy would have saved. But they didn’t so we fucking get Trump again.
I’ll want to say - I dunno - isn’t the super-low turnout Biden’s fault?
The Democratic Party cannot fail, it can only be failed
And then we’ll see these same types salivating at the thought of Trump’s policies hurting minorities because “They should’ve voted for Biden.”
It’s wild how there’s so much entitlement inherent to that attitude:
“Um Sweaty, don’t you realise that you’re morally obligated to vote or else you will get my disapproval?”
“Um Sweaty, don’t you realise that you’re morally obligated to vote for Our Guy™ or else you will get my disapproval?”
“…gosh, why are all these people so out of touch??”
There’s a non-insignificant chance that if they managed to scold everyone into voting that people might actually vote Trump in protest and they’d need to reckon with that instead of, you know, chastising people even more. I don’t think it would be likely enough to happen but the fact is that it’s not completely off the cards. It’s more likely that you’d see a swing towards third party candidates and spoilt votes that they’d get infuriated over people “ruining democracy” by not adhering to the demands that these voters play by their arbitrary rules and they’d lament how the Dems “could have” won that swing state if only that 0.5% of spoilt votes had actually gone to Biden.
In a broader sense this is why countries like Israel play with shorter sentences for refusing conscription and why there’s a lot of leniency built into how long you are imprisoned for and why imprisoning conscientious objectors for short-ish periods serves a structural function that supports the state; if you jail conscientious objectors for like 10+ years then you turn those very disaffected non-participants mostly into bitterly disaffected recruits who then start resorting to becoming Chelsea Manning figures or they start a culture of the ol’ classic Vietnam War fragging of commanding officers (tyfys to those brave Vietnam War veterans unironically btw) , either of which is far more disruptive than having the government put a tiny percentage of resistors into a temporary time-out.
(Not shitting on any conscientious objectors here tho. I have nothing but love and support for them and I support their committment and personal sacrifices they make on ethical and political grounds. Just speaking about how the government structures and mitigates the threat these people are capable of posing.)
In a similar sense, if you’re “conscripting” people into being compelled to vote then you risk blowback from that. And I’m not talking like countries that have “compulsory” voting where the government sends you stern letters or they make you pay small fines for not voting here.
Matt Christman with those sage predictions again…
5 dudes show up to vote for trump
It’s our fault though and not the fault of the guy doing a massive genocide. No it’s the lefts fault as always
The left in the US is simultaneously pathetically weak and big enough to completely change the results of the elections
My Voting for Jill Stein in Michigan counts for 100x the votes of other states. Bask in my POWER to make liberals collapse. They call me The Delegate
They call me The Delegate
I’M THE ONE THAT
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We should
harder.but no, not like that
Damn, I guess doing genocide on live stream has consequences?
I bet Biden wants to ban Tiktok so bad he can taste it.
Netanyahu: thanks Joe Biden for the gifted subscriptions, thank you
Smash that “like” button!
“Israel-Hamas War” Why do they do this? Everyone knows they aren’t going after Hamas and juat using the whole thing to ethnically cleanse the land for their own. As some “final solution” crap. Why does the media insist on these absolute gaslighting labourous terms?
I know it’s rhetorical just sick off seeing them all phrase it like this or "Iran-backed-Yemini-associated resistance group it’s so Winston Smith-ing. Who talks like this. They are doing it to actively remove “Gaza” or Palestine from the converstion. It’s annoying.
You know why they do this, but if you want to violently beat yourself over the head with confirmation of what you already know, read Parenti’s Inventing Reality.
Is Inventing Reality a better read than Manufacturing Consent? I found Chomsky’s book too dense to go through.
I haven’t read Manufacturing Consent but I would describe Inventing Reality as a punchy compilation of the US’ worst atrocities. If you like Parenti, you will like this book, it is easy to read it in his voice.
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I think a lot of people aren’t paying very close attention, so normalizing this phrasing does a lot for how people think about this
Losing my fucking mind every time talking heads refer to Hamas as terrorists and never once attempt to inform the audience or even imply they’re the only legitimate government Gaza even has
Gotta start wondering if Joey and the DMC et al are losing on purpose at this point. It would take nothing to win this presidency against Trump. 8 mean the barest break in the beatings would be enough for us plebs. But i think they kinda liked the open grift not to mention the donation train.
In a perverse way, a Trump presidency would legitimize the Dems (and this false democracy) for that much longer.
Democrats are trying very hard to win while playing by the rules of capital and empire. They can’t pivot to winning policies not because they are trying to lose, but because all the people who’d seriously consider those policies are drummed out of the party.
This but also capitalism has reached a very late stage in the US and Bernie-esque policies, while probably still achievable in a practical sense, are probably enough of a threat to the interests of capital that it might have motivated Business Plot reboot or it’s possible that it would disturb the fragile balance of the market enough that it might be enough to cause the house of cards to start collapsing.
Think like if the US nationalised healthcare or intervened in the real estate market and started providing public housing - there’s a non-zero chance that this would pop a bubble in the market that would cause a ripple effect throughout the other bubbles like in the finance industry such as BlackRock which might just level entire sections of the US economy.
I’m lowkey hoping that Tesla goes belly-up in the near future and this is the catalyst for exactly what I’m describing above.
America dying in a blowing up tesla would be extremely funny. I would be laughing in the bread line.
My lathe prediction is still bitcoin bailout
I hadn’t actually considered the poetic aspect of that until you mentioned it lol.
Could you imagine the psychic damage that Elon Musk would sustain if that happened?
The dude was so wounded when he got booed at that surprise appearance at a Dave Chapelle show that his staff nearly called a wellness check on him.
If Tesla not only sinks but it takes down a large part of the economy, or maybe it even levels the US economy, he would absolutely get scapegoated for it. If his reputation took a hit like that I think it would break his brain permanently.
Gotta start wondering if Joey and the DMC et al are losing on purpose at this point
Of course they are
It’s easier to do $1000 a plate fundraising dinners about how evil the Trump Republicans are when you’re fighting against them, far harder to do that shit when you’re in power
Trump might destroy our alliance with Europe and weaken NATO and cause general chaos amongst the imperialists
I had some degree of faith in this before but idk, he seemed to get reined in somewhere along the way after he started to stray too far from obstructing US foreign policy and into actively undermining it (think how he flipped on his position on the DPRK for some indiscernible reason - either he was on a grift and trying to woo the DPRK government and he entered into the following phase of trying to railroad his objectives with them and they said “Lol no” so Trump decided that they were terrible because they weren’t willing to play ball in exactly how he demanded they should, or the CIA had had enough of his shenanigans and decided to show him the Zapruder extended cut or they dug up the Epstein Cinematic Universe movies that he was on set for during the recording and they said pull your shit in or we’re really going to make you into a star.)
Whatever the truth of the matter is, I feel like his policy on this stuff shifted pretty significantly and kinda out of nowhere. The dude’s clearly the most stable genius out there though so it’s hard to tell whether there’s something behind the scenes directly shaping these changes or if he’s just a wrecking ball that’s careening between one thing and the next.
Whether it’s true or not the liberals believe it is true. They are genuinely scared of that outcome.
Somehow they are oblivious to how much damage Biden has done with the way Israel has been handled though.
God I wish that everything that liberals believed was true. Just think about it:
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Communists have infiltrated colleges, and maybe even the entire education system
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China is planning an invasion of the US
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Trump is going to destroy the US alliance with Europe and break up NATO
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Communists are a large and well-organised enough that they can undermine elections and they have enough people influence to sway people’s politics
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Capitalism is good, actually, and it’s going to improve the lives of people in the developing world and things are improving for the people of the US
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Voting for the Democrats will stop fascism
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The “good guys” are good and the “bad guys” are bad
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All we need is to tweak at the dials in order to make things right
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The global hegemon is a benevolent force in the world
Shit, don’t threaten me with a good time…
You could randomly pick any one of these things and if you wished it into reality I’d be overjoyed at the outcome.
God I know that feeling
Back when I was a radlib I would sometimes think “I don’t believe in the American dream but I really wish I could”
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presidents actually have immense amounts of power (on paper) regarding treaties, alliances, war and foreign policy
I also remember during the Trump term a bunch of articles with titles like “the brave people on Trump’s cabinet who ignore his stupid ideas.”
Clearly it’s far from total control since Trump still tore up the Iran deal and raised tensions in Israel, Korea and elsewhere, but I believe the deep state will defend NATO from him if they have to.
Nothing I would love to see more than a chud civil war between the Nat Sec deep state types and the Trump hogs. Heighten those contradictions baby
Love seeing our enemies fighting each other
That civil war would be over in five minutes, it would just be Jan 6 on a bigger scale. A bunch of Trumpers dressed up like Vikings would get drone striked.
The CIA also has immense amounts of power in staging an assassinations of presidents.
Watch as the US takes the europeans with them as they drown
I think biden knows he would not have won even if he did not allow any genocide so he is doing whatever he wants to do. I remember his polling sucked even before all of this
Democrats let America down by running a guy just as bad as Trump. Their incompetence, far-right policies, genocide funding and refusal to run an electable candidate have made Americans lose faith in voting at all. Liberals refusing to go left are every bit to blame if Trump wins.
Liberals
refusing to go leftare every bit to blame if Trump wins.
Simultaneously “lol Hexbear MAGA are furious they can’t stop people from voting!” literally another thread here recently.
They wont be able to press those two buttons.
And with their bottomless stupidity, Dems will attempt to overcome this defeat by moving further right to appease “moderate” conservatives rather than courting the progressives that should be energizing their base.
I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere, but yesterday was the White House Iftar dinner for Ramadan and no one came
He’s gonna get cooked so badly
They’re both running to try and lose the election.
Trump never wanted to win in 2016 in the first place, now he just wants to raise money to pay lawyers to beat his court cases, not become president.
Biden said he would only serve one term as president, because he was old. He doesn’t want to be president again, which is why he is trying to become a unpopular as possible.
2024 is an unpopularity contest.
He walked that back almost immediately after getting into power.
Advisor in Campaign (Dec 2019): “If Biden is elected,” a prominent adviser to the campaign said, “he’s going to be 82 years old in four years and he won’t be running for reelection.”. This was solely to get people to vote for Biden before Obama saved his campaign on Super Tuesday.
January 20, 2021: “He’s planning to run again,” Chris Coons tells politico. This was literally the day of his inaugeration.
March 25, 2021: Biden: “I’m running for reelection in 2024.”
Nov 22, 2021: Biden intends to run for reelection in 2024, Psaki says
It was only ever a ploy to get people to vote for an old ass piece of shit.
They’re both running to try and lose the election.
The return of the king! Please clap.
Trump does have shades of Caesar, in that he’s mostly seeking office for the immunity it offers rather than to exercise its powers. Part of him also has an ego about the amount that being POTUS lets him be on TV.
I’ve been recommended this lecture on Caesar. What do you think of it?
Not OP but I’ve read Parenti’s book on this topic and I would recommend it. He uses the case of Caesar to make a good point that a lot of historians don’t like and a lot of people who skim the material misunderstand.
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yup
The thing that Trump would like more than anything else would be to become king in a constitutional monarchy. It would stroke his ego, people would have to respect him, the law would be unable to touch him a d he wouldn’t have to do any actual government business.
Also, Trump fucking loves golden shit, and what better way to get a lot of gold than by being the constitutionally appointed special boy.
King of Poland elections in 1700s vibes.
I see they have stopped using edging in headlines, in favor of leading. Shame. I wish the news were more horny.
Lol
I’m waiting for the first candidate to goon themselves to victory.
- I forgot about that.
Has anyone said “tankies” on the news channels yet?
The top comment at that site
Trump wants the genocide to happen faster.
That makes me angry, sad, and depressed all at the same time.
Then Biden better pull his fucking support for Israel so we can keep Trump out of the whitehouse
Biden’s unconditional support for Israel is a vote for Trump. That’s a statement that will break Blue MAGA brains.
Yeah at what point do you talk about pErSoNaL rEsPoNsiBiLiTy with Biden. There is no way Biden and every single person around him isn’t aware how badly his policies w/r/t Gaza are killing him with voters. And yet he continues on. If you know you are doing something to tank your chances of winning and you do it anyway, why is your eventual loss on us leftists?
He’s saving it for an October surprise, because they don’t actually care about Palestinians, only the election.
I wish we had an October Surprise.
That would still be insufficient.
Biden should bomb the Zionist entity into the sea if he wants votes.
Biden on the other hand likes his genocide slow and steady
Just like he likes her…
I had to go there and do that to myself. Didn’t I. Yuck.
I’ve mentioned this before, but no lib has been able to explain the mechanics of how Trump could be worse than Biden on Gaza; because Biden already has his foot mashed down on that gas pedal.
Biden is giving Israel all the weapons they could want and then some. The administration is providing cover for the Zionist entity at institutions like the UN and ICJ, as well as domestically in press conferences and PR. There is not one iota of evidence that Biden has applied any pressure whatsoever on Netanyahu. So… what else is there for a president to do? Literally the only way a president could go any further would be to (openly) put US troops on the ground and bombers in the air. But everything about Trump’s past indicates that’s definitely a bridge too far even for him.
Damn so what’s Biden doing to slow down the genocide?
he’s getting VERY mildly annoyed with Bibi behind closed doors
Well at least they admit Biden wants the genocide
Hey remember when we used to make jokes like “Soon liberals will make us choose between who releases the gas one second slower”
I fucking hate when we’re right
I just saw this evergreen headline…
“Angry” Biden stays the course on Israel
I said it before and I’ll say it again, we’re in for a repeat of Reagan - Carter
Liberals are absolutely losing it lol. I can’t even imagine how insane they’ll get when trump wins and takes a metaphorical dump on American institutions and democracy.
Dems when they realize they have to actually stop project 2025 to make their threats carry any wait
do you want republicans to put gay people into the camps? instead of democrats? I heard from biden that he might spare 2 gays and you know how much he is a man of his word. just look at the border bill and how he never gave an inch to the republicans
Jill. That’s a ruZZian name right? Fuckin commie trying to undermine my president
Jillkerfication complete
I’m thinking about the sheer levels of divorced Biden would manage to become
