• UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Top comment:

    Edit: I just want to add that I don’t think this is an issue that needs to ruin a marriage. In the US, there are plenty of couples who have healthy marriages but one is a republican and the other is democrat with very different outlooks on things. They make it work by given each other freedom it express their beliefs outside of their home while focusing on the things they have in common at home.

    That’s how you know these liberals are unserious bozos. If China was actually committing a genocide and your husband was denying it, that should be a dealbreaker. That would make him a fascist and worse. But, y’know, they don’t really care about that, it’s just about performing unquestioning loyalty to the empire.

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      Look some people support the genocide over there and some people support the genocide over here, there’s no reason we can’t all get along!

      Except for those freaks on the left who don’t want any genocide at all, bunch of extremists.

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      It’s not about intransigence or propaganda, it’s about control. She wants her husband to believe her just because she’s saying it and is thinking about leaving him if he doesn’t

      Real abuser shit.

      • RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        How is that abuse lol. That’s just incompatibility. If she’s beating him or coercing him like holding his visa unless he converts to being a patriot, that’s abuse. But if you tell someone “I can’t be with you if you don’t agree on these fundamental truths” (whether it’s wrong or not), that’s just basic relationship management.

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          it’s abuse because there are clear racial undertones to her treatment of her husband. calling your husband brainwashed bc he doesn’t agree with what you think about the country he’s actually from is really weird. like who is this lady? she’s demanding “academic sources” that aren’t from China but i doubt she’s sourcing her claims from anywhere that fits those standards.

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          The idea is that her belief in the fake genocide isn’t sincere, but it’s more like a “test”, if you love me you will agree with whatever I say or believe. That’s emotional abuse.

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            “Test” is a really good way of putting it. Just the whole vibe she’s giving out isn’t one of trying to figure out her husband’s perspective, it’s a my way or the highway style ultimatum.

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          The Cardassians weren’t torturing Picard when they tried to get him to say that there were three lights instead of four, they were just doing basic relationship management.

          Joking aside, I think it’s really fucking important whether or not the “fundamental truths” are true or not. “I’m divorcing you if you keep saying the Earth is round” and “I’m divorcing you if you keep saying that the Earth is flat” are not equivalent statements.

          Plus, the Redditor is approaching this from the angle that her husband is brainwashed and never stops to consider that they might be wrong about something, especially a topic where their husband might have greater familiarity. They’re being unreasonable and threatening divorce unless husband acquiesces. In my book that’s emotional abuse.

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    The thing that kills me with these Uygher genocide fabricators is 9-outta-10 how Islamophobic they are in any other context

    These are motherfuckers who will sit there praising the war on terror which HAS KILLED millions of Muslims while they shed crocodile tears for imaginary massacres

    They’re cynical scum all of them

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      It’s like how republicans are suddenly supper concerned about lgbtq rights if it means they get to be Islamophobic or how they were suddenly all really concerned about the integrity of women’s sports records when it meant they had plausible deniability to be openly transphobic.

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      I either don’t get out much or live in a nicer part of that world because I haven’t heard one person I interact with offer any type of praise for the war on terror ever. Most of us just keep our heads down and shuffle our feet through the struggle of artificial scarcity imposed on us by our overlords.

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    this time on; White Westerner ruins their own relationship by not listening to their partner who is from the place in question, and has a far more intimate understanding of the situation and refuses to accept direct sources because of their own political bias.

    seems to me the whitey did the liberal thing, wherein they marry someone from a culture they deem lesser so they can “rescue” them from it. Bro went to FU and Yale, if anyone would understand direct sources and intellectual honesty, it’s them.

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    I (Chinese) just went on a couple dates with a white girl and we seem to hit it off but this is actually a concern I have.

    She’s not Zionist, pro-LGBT and has kind of shaken off the conservative Christian upbringing but being in Australia and surrounded by Australian media, and has concerns about China.

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      If she’s dating you and seems to have an open mind then there’s hope. My wife was convinced by media in her country that she’d get hate crimed the minute she stepped off the plane in China. We went for a week and she had a wonderful time and keeps talking about wanting to visit again.

      Sometimes the best way to disprove a lie is first hand exposure to the truth.

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      I wouldn’t worry about it. I would talk to her about it and at least show very basic things about China. (High speed rail, big buildings, people generally being happy). If she’s a normal human being her opinions will change overtime.

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      You’re worrying about the wrong thing. People like OP don’t exist in real life. If they thought the genocide was real they’re dumb enough to fall for 100 other blood libels and wouldn’t have dated you in the first place. What you need to worry about are women who think the genocide is real and agree with it.

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    OK how about the official United Nations report? The one they spent months on and libs thought it was gonna blow the lid off the thing, and instead the UN (Michele Bachelet and her team, specifically) confirmed there isn’t a genocide and was only able to offer some mild criticism of China (which frankly, to me read like “well we can’t just not criticize them for anything, so here’s some ticky tack stuff”).

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          Not that she lied, but it’s a 180 on her first report. The page made specifically for the report is full of mays and maybes. Of course the “Reception” section is all about how actually the report doesn’t go far enough and that it is actually too watered down.

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      Evwryone loses Viet Nam. And Afghanistan. They’ve got plot armour. In 200,000 years, when humanity is gone, the planet is solely populated by uplifted mantises and a life form that evolved from Shamrock Shake residue, the mantis capitals will be HCMC and Kabul.

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      It’s unlikely that the average American even knows that china fought Vietnam shortly after the US lost, or that it was Vietnamese communists who stopped Pol Pot’s genocide. I’m 90% sure what they’re thinking is that China lost the civil war because the KMT retreated to Taiwan lol