Romantic and platonic-friendship. Valuing voting on solutions, no one dominates X position (ex managing finances for the relationship due to gender) unjustly, mutual aiding each other etc.
If anyone has any ideas about how a good relationship would work in ancap, fascism or communism i’d be interested to hear your take.
Fascism = usually/never gender equality, and that’s gonna cause tension unless it’s same gender relationship. I could imagine lesbian homofascist being married to another lesbian homofascist would work, until one of them becomes ‘old’ first and becomes disabled.
Ancap = wouldn’t people be looking too intently for the next richest accessible person and drop previous relations? By good relationship, i don’t mean financially richest relationship haha.
Communist = in a polyarmorous relationship, the leader might become disliked and not step down?
Most relationship behavior is not very related to the political leanings of the persons involved. In fact it is not uncommon to see quite the opposite behavior.
Idk, but I guess complex interpersonal relationships are hard to press into largely theoretical frameworks of how society as a whole should work.
I think as long as it is voluntary by all parties involved, people should come to their own arrangements regardless of how they align with my (or their) ideas of how larger society would be better.
Most relationship behavior is not very related to the political leanings of the persons involved. In fact it is not uncommon to see quite the opposite behavior.
never in my life have I seen a relationship that wasn’t hugely shaped by the political believes of those in. Not all political believes are a matter to love relationship, but there’s a huge portion of political believes that is.
Look at what people do and not what they say. Especially in love relationships the discrepancy between what people say (usually close to political opinions) and what they do is often huge.
the discrepancy between what people say… and what they do is often huge.
Yes, and this decrepancy is for me part of their policial believes. When I try to map peoples believes, I never do that purly on what they say, I do it based on all sorts of signals I get from them.
To some extend, but sometimes people also have certain political opinions for their public and professional life, but intentionally (or not) act different in their most private life to counter-balance that. And I don’t mean that they are all hypocrites… humans are just complex beings with multiple, sometimes counter-acting desires.
yes I know. And that is part of their identity and political believes.
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I think you mean ancaps, facists tend to be big about “family” and honor and that kind of shit.
I agree with what poVoq said but I still have a question. What do you mean by communism? Are you meaning Marxism-Leninism? Actual communism is stateless, so it’d be described as an anarchy (unless you’re an individualist anarchist or something where a pizza party is the state).
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I’ll interpret that as Marxism-Leninism I guess.
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Ostensibly its aim is, because it purports to be aiming to a ‘communism’. However, its idea of full communism is utopian to the extent that they believe it will take centuries to reach.
Really, it’s just the state ideology of the USSR under Stalin, which wanted to call itself socialist/communist despite being state capitalist. It revises plenty of other stuff in Marxist theory as well, laying the groundwork for class collaborationist Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, Dengism, and whatever the fuck neo-Dengism is.I’d say that Lenin was the first to revise the typical marxist idea of communism though. In State & Rev he describes lower-phase communism as needing some kind of state apparatus to maintain it while communist society still suffered from some bourgeois ‘birthmarks’. This was something he’d added to the typical narrative, however. For Marx and Engels (as well as their friends and anarchist frenemies) communism was totally stateless, and the proletarian dictatorship was for them a state in the process of destroying itself as much as it was for destroying class society.
Disagree. As said before, relationships aren’t build on political ideologies. Relationships are built on love.
Was writing a long paragraph but decided to delete it and start again. Short answer: in any relationship, just loving eachother is more important than having a position.
Long answer: Love makes you forgive and forget about the bad side of your partner when they lose that part of them.
Love makes you not care if someone is bad to you for a while because they’re struggling with something. Love will make you feel equal to both yourself as the other. When you have to make an important decision, you will come out with an answer that benefits both.
Anarchist principles do not always work in relationships or in life. Unfortunately, some people are too dumb to be left to their own devices. What do you do if you have a PhD in medicine and your wife is a dumbass Trump Supporter? Should you weigh her opinion on vaccines and theology to be equal to your own?
sounds like you haven’t lived to anarchist principles since a long time
