Every chud in my life is obsessed with someone breaking into their house and the situation being resolved with the discharge of a firearm. And these are people living in low crime areas out in the suburbs, with no pedestrians. It’s frustrating to talk with these people since their whole worldview is a racist panic over some imagined brown interloper invading their white fortresses.
One of my coworkers tells me he always pulls out his Glock to check the corners when he comes home in the evening. Another has a CCTV system and an AR15 by his bed. I personally don’t own a gun anymore because I don’t trust myself with one, and chuds will ask me what I’ll do if some mentally unwell person high on amphetamines decided to enter my apartment. I guess I’d leave or call an ambulance? It seems so unlikely of a scenario that even if I had a firearm I probably wouldn’t use it right, or even register this person as a threat quickly enough to do a John Wick style takedown.
How many home invasions are actually stopped this way? Do chuds all think they’re Robocop?
My mom got really paranoid when they installed a speed bump in front of her house in the lower-middle income neighborhood she used to live in because it would make all the thieves drive by slower and think about all the stuff inside that they could steal.
Feels like a
comicClickhole had a meme saying pedos LOVED school zones cause they could check out all the hot kidz and to share this meme to change the speed limit to 85 mph outside schools.
One time my aunt got mad that the city had to cut down a small line of trees because of possible fires or something. Maybe it was the roots were getting into the road? I don’t remember. She wasn’t mad because she liked the trees, but because it meant that several houses were now visible from the main street, as in, now visible from the poor/black side of town. My aunt said the same thing as your mom, that potential thieves driving home could now see the roofs of white people’s homes and figure out which they wanted to steal from.
Yeah, my sister.
She lives in an “upper middle class” yuppie suburb where we grew up, but I moved away years ago.
She gives me updates on what it’s like, and she describes it like it’s mad max now. She says there are bands of roving weirdos, and there are now no-go zones that the police have declared lawless.
I ask my brother what she’s on about, and he has no idea. I went to visit recently and it seemed same as it ever was lol
Conservative media really do be melting brains
Actively rewriting people’s realities as they’re experiencing it. A family member of mine recently went up to Seattle and described it in post-apocalyptic terms too. Said there’s open warfare in the streets and people shooting heroin in broad daylight. Said he saw no less than a dozen burning buildings on an average day. I went on youtube later that day to watch some recent videos of people around Seattle and it seemed like any other American urban area. Seemed kind of nice actually.
One of my cousins did a roadtrip back in like 2017 and claimed he got stopped by “antifa checkpoints” several times throughout Colorado lmao. Just utter derangement, telling exaggerated campfire stories that wouldn’t be believed in middle school
I don’t even know what to call this. White people wanting to feel like they’re on the bad end of the stick? Hallucinations? A strong desire to do racist pogroms on false pretenses of riots?
I have to imagine it’s some kind of coping strategy for precarity. People in the suburbs are scared to death of losing what they have and having to live among the lower classes. So they project these fears as poor violent minorities coming to take what they have as opposed to the accurate view of economic decline that’s actually pushing them to live among the lower class
anxiety about class precarity is as old as the ascendance of the bourgeoisie. a hereditary nobility always had their place simply by birth—even if they became cash-poor, but a burgher losing their wealth forfeits their social standing. early bourgeois-ruled places like Venice actually recreated that hereditary security with a hereditary citizenship that was frozen and required legislative approval to admit new persons/families
stopped by “antifa checkpoints” several times
no no it was true antifa did used to stop travellers and force them to take free weed and propagate weed legalization back then, i still have my orders from antifa headquarters, framed.
People do be doing heroin in broad daylight but otherwise that’s all nonsense
claimed he got stopped by “antifa checkpoints”
What in the entire fuck? Was he just making shit up or did he really believe that? Like the cops from Kansas or whatever glass-flat shitholes abut on Colorado are notorious for robbing people with colorado plates, but antifas?
I think people like my cousins are in a constant competition with other paranoid conservatives to tell the best spooky campfire story.
For whether or not he actually believes it, it seems like a lot of their beliefs exist in a liminal position between legitimate belief and making shit up. They make stuff up until they believe it. It’s like Qanon. Whether or not they believe in the tiny, granular details doesn’t matter because they believe in the general vibe of the thing. Antifa checkpoints exist to my cousin because they sound like they’re supposed to be a thing, not because he actually experienced them
A family member of mine recently went up to Seattle and described it in post-apocalyptic terms too. Said there’s open warfare in the streets and people shooting heroin in broad daylight. Said he saw no less than a dozen burning buildings on an average day.
I mean it does suck in Seattle, but that’s because everything’s fucking expensive, there’s no bathrooms, has a shitty nightlife, feels weirdly hostile to pedestrians, and is fucking expensive. Like even Sacramento felt like it was a better city even though it’s roughly similar in experience to me just more hot and worse tap water.
Maybe I should just say it sucks living down in the lower 48 and I’m happy enough up where I’m at.
She says there are bands of roving weirdos, and there are now no-go zones that the police have declared lawless.
She means the country club is lowering fees and the cops aren’t arresting the boat salesman who scammed her
One of my coworkers tells me he always pulls out his Glock to check the corners when he comes home in the evening
Propagandizing yourself daily lmao.
The only thing I worry about is if shit ever hits the fan and THEY have weapons while I don’t. But I also do not trust myself to own guns.
My house actually was invaded once though… By a 5 year old autistic child
My home was once invaded by a dorky little beagle who was famous across the neighborhood for escaping his yard all the time
I’ll handle this cantankerous pup, come here you little mutt and get a smooch
With me it was our neighbor’s terrier. Our door was open and he just waltzed in like he owned the place, had a little look around and left because I was outside and he wanted me to pet him.
Dogs are just like that
My coworker went on to say he has a Glock in the first place because they don’t have safeties, so he can “shoot first.” I guess disengaging a safety wastes precious milliseconds. (For people who don’t know guns, handguns normally have a button on the side that will prevent the trigger from firing, so you can safely keep it in a holster or something. Glocks don’t have this button and it’s stupid)
Glocks have what’s called a trigger safety. It’s a little lever on the trigger that has to be depressed for the gun to fire. It’s very effective; Unless someone deliberately puts their finger on the trigger and pulls its extremely unlikely for the gun to go off if it’s dropped or in any kind of accident. Modern guns rarely if ever go off if they’re dropped. Many can not due to their design.
The advantage of the trigger safety over other safeties is that it prevents the gun from going off accidentally while allowing the user to fire. This solves the problem of having to actuate a small button or lever during a stressful situation. It has an additional advantage - The trigger safety is always on. If the gun is cocked and ready to fire then the trigger safety is active. With a conventional safety once you turn it off it remains off until you turn it on again. The trigger safety re-sets as soon as you take your finger off the trigger. If you drop the gun after firing the trigger safety is on and will prevent the gun going off accidentally.
Safeties are entirely intended to prevent dangerous accidents. To prevent a gun from being used it’s generally best to get a cable-lock that threads up through the magazine well, then through the action, and it then locked in place. This prevents the action from being closed which in turn prevents the gun firing. There’s way way to get around this without opening the lock or cutting the cable.
Safeties are entirely intended to prevent dangerous accidents.
Which is why trigger safeties aren’t safeties.
If the safety interlock on something dangerous is the same button to activate it, it’s not a safety.
Of course it’s a Glock, if it’s not a Glock with these people it’s a Sig. Just the most aggressively bland taste in firearms that lack manual safeties
With a sig they can blow their dicks off to scare the intruders
I hope he accidentally shoots himself in the balls while holstering it.
Honestly I’ve never known glocks to be unsafe.
yeah seems like the manual thumb safety is more about preventing negligent shots by careless people honestly
That’s true, I do like to train my draw so I’m more accustomed to Glock style safeties, but I know that’s not everyone so maybe a traditional safety is better for the average person. Also the serpa holsters were a bad design that caused NDs for a while. I’m surprised they still sell them.
Or kids :/
I am 100% convinced he will one day shoot someone by accident. That’s just a dangerous way to be
Statistically he’s going to end up shooting himself in an accident
I had a little kid come running through when his family was moving in. It was really cute, if a bit unnerving bc folks just aren’t really neighborly like that in a lot of places any more.
I am absolutely serious about home defence, that’s why I’ve fortified it using a defence in depth strategy. While any intruders are mired in the landmines and barbed wire belts strewn across
the streetmy outer perimeter I can launch flanking counter attacks from my neighbours garage which I have annexed to improve my defensive posture. Should these counter attacks fail to repel the intruders I am prepared to fall back to my second line of defence in the entryway, ready to call down artillery on the pre-sighted grid squares in my front lawn. My final line of defence is centred around my garden shed, which I have fortified and surrounded with further minefields. I have attempted to expand my defence lines into the park behind my house but lack the force necessary to confront the city in open battle.This mfer doesn’t even have a moat with sharks lmao,
I know a couple people personally who actually got home invaded.
One was a nightshifter who was asleep when people were robbing empty houses midday. He woke from dead asleep, was too tired to figure out how to fire his rifle, and just ended up clubbing the guy with it.
The other one was a dealer and his gf. He wasn’t home, but would have been armed. She was home and got the shit beat out of her.
If he had been home, i’m convinced both of them would have been shot dead. Because the 6 guys who showed up definitely had a plan, were organized, and I saw them run off and they were all strapped.
Which is all just to say, it doesn’t really go down like you expect it to. You’re alllways gonna get caught backfooted because the invader will be prepared and you won’t. The guys who fantasize about that never seem to get that reality.
Edit: also, so many of the steven segal wannabes who fantasize about this aren’t even living in the sorts of areas where this actually happens.
I always think of that scene from snatch with these suburban gun guys who own weapons for “protection”
“Protection from who Tommy? Ze Germans?”
I love that line and quote is constantly.
It’s something I’m worried about but specifically I’m worried about people thinking I’m too gay looking or something and trying to lynch me. I’ve had some weird and scary interactions with people up on the mountain where my parents live.
Yeah this is a much more legitimate worry to have and a good reason to have a firearm and training. Not to make you more worried though
I have a trans flag on my bike and I sometimes get worried I’ll go out of the store to find it’s been vandalized and someone’s hiding nearby to beat me up. Most I’ve gotten is dirty looks tho
My dad installed a CCTV system that cost several hundred dollars.
He lives in a gated community.
At the end of the street, with other houses that have boats outside while my parents’ has nothing that would call the attention.
He lives in a gated community.
maybe his threat model is teens with parents incapable of loving them
Cameras are such a weird phenomena.
Like great, you got blurry footage of someone walking back and forth. Now you can give your blurry footage to teh cops, who won’t do anything with it bc they don’t give a shit.
idk, home security is dumb. Get a reinforced kick-plate, put things you’d prefer not to be stolen out of sight, that’s pretty much all you can do. All the rest of it is just hyping yourself up.
We have cameras to see if the mail has come yet, which of us moved the big broom, check in on things while we’re out of town, etc. They can be useful even if you’re not in a risky neighborhood.
ETA: We have no firearms, because we don’t have any interest in maintaining the proficiency necessary to ensure that we don’t accidentally kill each other. Even aside from that, we have no interest in hunting, and the likelihood that a gun would ever make a positive difference during some remotely-possible home invasion is basically unmeasurable.
Cameras for packages is a good and legit usage, i like that.
I’ve moved to a neighborhood with a lot of gawkers (including a local official) who would repeatedly drive by and slow down as they were out front. Even though I knew this wasn’t the case, it still felt like my joint was being cased by a continuous stream of blue hairs and it was annoying as hell. I put up a cheap but visible camera, and lo-and-behold I could focus on work again without retirees in suburban tanks idling outside the window.
Maybe there is a small amount of validity to security theater, at least against those who buy into fear-mongering, lol
Nothing is wrong with a camera system. I believe everybody should get one. Given that it can’t be accessed willy nilly by whoever they bought it from.
I mean, if you have nothing better to do with your money, sure. But I think it’s a waste when you already live in a gated community. I disapprove of the concept of gated communities in general, and I don’t think they really even make your home much safer (home invasions are vanishingly rare, thieves will always rather steal from a store with cash than a home).
yea, my dad my entire life lol. He has one of the most advanced cases of suburban psychosis i’ve ever seen. He came to help my partners mom with some stuff and they live a normal lower-mid middle class neighborhood and his ass was freaking out like someone was gonna just walk up and break into his car. (we’ve always been poor btw, their neighborhood is way nicer than anything i grew up in)
When we were growing up he picked a closet and removed the doorknob and replaced it with a deadbolt and would stash shit in there. Anytime we went anywhere hed make me put all my guitars in there lol.
He didn’t keep an ar15 by his bed but he did have a 22 rifle.
The last house we lived in together had french doors that he’d always bar with wood and i remember him yelling at me up and down bc i left the house one day without setting up his elaborate jerry-rigged system of wood boards to keep people out 🙄
You mock the french door with wooden barricade, but how many times was that house broken into?
If 0: it worked!
If more than 0: think how much worse it would have been without the barricade!
The virgin deadbolt closet vs the chad drywall knife
Oh yea my last boss was one of the biggest dumbest chuds I’ve ever met. Legit thought my coworker wasn’t coming back when he took a vacation to Mexico.
He always talked about how he leaves his door open because he hopes someone tries to break in cus “then they’d have to deal with him”
Really don’t think they’d have too much trouble dealing with the 60 year old guy who went straight to the bar after work before going home to fall asleep drunk in his recliner watching fox news at full volume.
The news wouldn’t shut up about youth crime so now my boomer parents think they’re going to be broken into all the time
tell them to form a rival boomer gang and settle everyone’s differences with a breakdancing competition
My house was invaded by a cute kitty once
Were you able to give the kitty some food and pats on the head? (Stray cats can have very unfortunate sicknesses though so it’s important to be safe)
It was a neighbor’s cat that was very friendly. I didn’t have anything I could give it other than love. I had the door open because trailers get really fucking hot in the summer and I was trying to get some cooler night air in there
Most burglaries are done during day time when people are at work. And a lot of them are targeted based on external factors like car decals and home accessories (signs, flags) that scream “GUN HERE!!”
I do have a home security system (currently a corpo cloud crap, trying to experiment with FOSS solutions) but it’s mainly because I’m not going to walk to me peep hole to check who’s ringing only to walk away because I don’t know them. I rather just check on my phone while in bed. There have been about 3 instances where guys were trying to scope out my place and even walked into my garage to look around. But no action was taken by either of us
Sometimes when I driving home at night I do get a bit paranoid when I see the same car on my tail the entire time, so I’ll take some detours to see what’s up. But that’s mainly because I’m more afraid of zionists and the feds and not some crip breaking into my home.
I do appreciate all my fascist neighbors who leave stickers on their car indicating that there are pooly secured firearms in their house. You know, just in case.
Most burglaries are committed on people known to have a lot of drugs in their houses. Drug dealers usually don’t want to admit that to cops. The risk/reward is just not worth the venture otherwise. No one goes house yo house burglarizing like it’s Home Alone. Most expensive shit people have in their homes are too heavy to haul out and jewelery isn’t really a quick turnaround for cash to get a fix outside of very specific circumstances. People will totally break into your car, maybe your garage if it’s really easy seeming but it’s just not worth the risk to bust into some random house. I am friends with the exact people these guys wanna shoot and they have never even considered home invasion, cause it’s stupid.
Idk dude good robbers can definitely haul out a lot of shit really quickly, would like to see a source on the drug thing. Most people that I’ve known that have been robbed lost shit like laptops/elecronics, work tools, cash and shit sometimes even furniture.
Like Ryan above said they’re normally in broad daylight and most of the time neighbours etc don’t even know it’s happening or just think it’s a family member or friend taking shit etc.
I wouldn’t rule not family members or friends taking shit being the case but I was talking about how it is more locally than what others deal with. I’m in a season 2 of the wire kinda locale though, so robberies are generally targeted cause a neighborhood you could involve a car in conspicuously is too poor to hit at random or too nosey to not get caught.
Most burglaries are committed on people known to have a lot of drugs in their houses.
where did you hear this?
From drug addicts, dealers and burglars.
I literally have nothing to steal, my phone is years old. My laptop is even older. My tv in my kitchen is from like 2010. I’m poor as fuck all they could steal are some grocery gift cards.
Yeah this is what I told my chud coworkers too. I have nothing worth stealing. My most valuable things are my Trek bike, some commie books, and my cats (I love them). Anyone attempting home burglary on me would walk in, get disappointed, then leave. My TV is a CRT with my 20 year old Sega Dreamcast hooked up to it.
Unless I get home invaded by the nerdiest burglar in the world, there’s nothing they’d want
Sick set up for the dreamcast though.
Sometimes a person feels the need for few rounds of Chuchu Rocket played as god intended
So I know that the real answers are about, like, liberalism, castle doctrine, yeomen fantasies, racist fearmongering in the news and popular culture, the extreme normalization of violence through many facets of society, etc., but you made me remember about how there’s a genre of home security system ads (mostly from the same company, formerly Brinks, now Broadview) that are incredibly exploitative.
And here’s an SNL parody of the same ad that I wouldn’t call “good” because only one episode of SNL in the last decade has had good skits (and even that episode had more bad skits than good ones), but the video in question does at least do a good enough job of drawing the viewer’s attention to how fucked up the original ad is.
Oh god, you’re probably right about this. Suburban white idiots must be getting extremely targeted ads about home security or something. Like in the 90s if you knew a guy with a CCTV system in his house, he was either a paranoid conspiracy theorist or a guy in a mansion who sells cocaine. Now it seems like it’s pretty normal for upwardly mobile conservatives to deck their little McMansions out with cameras, security lights, whatever.
One time I was using a VPN once and youtube gave me some kind of targeted ad for gas masks, and the assumption in the ad seemed to be that a sudden apocalyptic disaster was imminent, so I’d better have a gas mask within my safe room. It was wild and opened my eyes to what kind of bizarre panicked rhetoric a lot of upper-middle class conservatives are getting.
Doorbell cameras are extremely normalized because of suburban psychosis, but I feel like actual CCTV systems generally aren’t.
I mainly know about ads like the one I linked and have them in my mind as “a thing” rather than undifferentiated background noise because I saw [a different] advertisement from Brink on TV when I was young and it scared the shit out of me.
if you knew a guy with a CCTV system in his house, he was either a paranoid conspiracy theorist or a guy in a mansion who sells cocaine
there is the third possibility which is domestic abuse and the cameras are there to monitor the people within the house. I think home surveilance systems should be illegal for this reason
A lot of it is for deliveries. Imagine having your favorite treats arrive, and then some sneaky low-life [minority] steals them from right under your nose! But if you have cameras, you can give the video to the police and then you get to imagine the brutal justice they will enact on your behalf.
Amazon made it cheap and easy. You buy their door bell/camera, slap it on your door. It’s battery operated and snitches directly to the cops, and now there’s countless thousands of the fucking things all over the USA>
On the very rare ocaissions all the ad-blockers I have on hiccup Facebook is always trying to sell me body armor, gas masks, insurrection kits, weird christian fascist stuff, and dick pills. It’s scary, just pure white male id spewing out of the screen demanding you buy buy buy.
I loved the bit in the commercial where it zooms in on the wall unit thingy and it’s the call center with all the guys. Like whoa all those guys are in there
I’m sold
Yeah there’s also an entire genre of home invasion horror films
??? He’s already in the house, it’s too late, he can already do all kinds of awful things, why would she think that calling someone would help? THE DOOR IS OPEN
I found YouTube links in your comment. Here are links to the same videos on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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Childish “shooting bad guys” fantasies aside, i feel like these people rarely think about how much it sucks to clean up blood. God help you if you have carpet or if the laquer on your wood floor is worn through. Never getting your deposit back.
Whenever you see news stories about someone killing an intruder, all the comments are like “give that man a cookie!!! He did society a favor!!” No mentions of mental healthcare or wishing him a quick mental recovery. Just congratulating on the killing and that’s it.
Years back in my chud days I used to hang out on a gun forum, like AR15 dot com or something. There’d been a user who actually did shoot an intruder, and actually did kill him.
Everyone on the forum thought he was the coolest guy in the world. I remember the user being traumatized and hated being asked about it and treated like a hero until he finally left the forum entirely.
Gross. Like rule 1 is you don’t ask people about people they’ve killed. if they bring it up, fine. But you don’t bring it up.
Can we make an exception for asking cops/troops?
There isn’t enough bleach and club soda in the world.
