Somehow paying for Netflix is fine but god forbid I want to watch a 10 hour loop of the DS9 intro without ads.
Youtube constantly demonitizes content creators, while protecting doxxers and content thieves. I will not be giving them a single red cent.
Don’t give them viewership too.
You’re giving too much credit, Youtube doesn’t care and is running on AI autopilot. This benefits IP abusers, thieves, and trolls and hurts legitimate creators. But it’s not on purpose, it’s just indifference.
This right here. I did youtube premium one time to watch the first season of cobra kai. And then immediately dropped it when that same month 3 content creators I followed all came forward with videos of how they were getting obviously fraudulent copyright strikes, demonetized over things that they didn’t do wrong and youtube just screwing them over cause they could.
A company that makes billions in profits could easily afford to put better content creator support in place and cover costs or disputes against content creators so none of the people who make their site profitable in the first place ever have to worry if they’ll still be paid for the hours and hours they devote to their channel only for a troll or bad faith actor to make a false claim on their videos and irrevocably remove income.
If your reason is only moral, then you should also never use the service.
Moral reasons
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A corporation can blatantly violate the law, bribe politicians, ignore its TOS whenever its suits them, but a second somebody wants to use a heavily subsidised service without being assaulted by advertising, a gaggle of concern trolls pop up to lecture about “stealing service”. Buddy, simping for Alphabet will get you nowhere.
If you are against them on a moral basis then use another service, I imagine that has a more negative impact on them. If you just want no ads, pay for it.
I hate ads as much as the next guy and use a variety of blockers but i’ll pay for any service with a reasonable payment method.
What other service will let me watch YouTube videos?
Specifically youtube-videos? None. For similar videos there are a bunch of services, at least to watch for entertainment purpose.
The price of food items has gone almost 50% up during last year, the wages are not keeping up with inflation, and I already pay for utilities and internet. I ain’t paying shiiiiiiiit.
Okay, so this actually has nothing to do with how YouTube “demonitizes content creators, while protecting doxxers and content thieves”. It’s actually just about you not wanting to pay for it.
Which is fine! But why lie to yourself about it?
Why not both? I can disdain YouTube for shitting on creators while refusing to pay for subpar service.
Wouldn’t it be better then to instead watch those creators on a platform that treats the creators better?
You Dutch? Pretty sure red cent is a Dutch saying.
And here I am, getting the same thing and paying nothing because I’ve got uBlock Origin.
How do you run that on a smart tv?
Seriously, this is why I eventually got it. Plus my android vanced stopped working and I didn’t know there was a way to fix it
ReVanced
I did, but that still only solves mobile and I mostly watch on the TV
For TV SmartTubeNext and you’re all set.
Look up
I don’t. I just plug a pc directly to my tv.
Smarttube
Smart tube, or I’ve been told a pi hole works as well. I haven’t bothered with that though, because I don’t like watching YT on TV myself. Out of the two, the pi hole is probably the better option since it works with all your devices.
Smartnexttube
This works fine but the main reason I personally have premium is to support the YouTubers I watch. Adblock gets rid of their revenue while premium pays them MORE than just ads do and now I don’t have to worry about it on any platform.
Premium still gives them hardly anything. Subscribing to their Patreon is better because they get all your money, minus the small fee.
True but I can afford premium. I can’t afford every single persons patreon.
They’re better off for life if you donate the money you’d spend with yt once for each, once per month. Many will have their turns.
That is a ton of work, especially when not every YTer has Patreon or channel memberships. Afaik, YTers do appreciate Premium views since it pays way more than ads.
It gives them a loot more than ad watchers though. Especially on longer videos (it’s based on watch time)
YMusic
Yes. I pay for YouTube Music for my six account family and, as a side benefit, we all get ad-free YouTube.
Not YouTube music, YMusic…
I also have No ads, because I use NewPipe. There I can watch all Videos from YouTube, cccBerlin, pearTube and it is also possible to Listen to Music from Bandcamp and Soundcloud.
Honestly not worth the trouble on mobile
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I use adblock on Firefox on my phone. Used to be fun to jailbreak and install my own apps and stuff, just getting lazier as I age I think
Unless you’re on an iPhone, setting up Revanced takes less than 10 minutes and very rarely breaks anything. If you want to support your YouTube creators, then sure pay for premium, but it baffles me how someone could have the technical prowess to set up a Lemmy account, but then balk at something like this. If anything, mobile might be one of the last frontiers now that they’re starting a war against adblock.
Somehow paying for Netflix is fine
I was saying paying for Netflix is not fineIs praying for netflix fine?
Only praying for it to die
how do we have every emote and I can never find any of them
Paying for premium is fine, but premium users letting Youtube off the hook for their corporate greed is annoying. If YT ran reasonable ads like they used to in the olden days I wouldn’t use an adblocker. Don’t even get me started on their garbage search, a multi billion dollar company can and should do better. Then of course there’s the fiasco of their demonetization system, and rules that apply to some but not others. Simply put they don’t deserve to be paid for premium, if their grinch heart grows and they decide to do better as a company I’d honestly pay for premium.
Tbh, I almost caved and got premium, but I have a lot of the same issues with Youtube that you have.
A big YouTuber was doxxed recently by another big YouTuber, and Youtube did nothing about it. If I was him, I would be going to court.
YouTube is trash, and if a viable alternative were to exist then I would switch in a heartbeat.
But I’m all about convenience, so until that alternative exists, if I have to give some money to YouTube to have that convenience, I’ll do it.
While the monopoly that YT has as a video platform is definitely an issue, the cost of maintaining the content has definitely risen now. 480p vs 4k videos have a ton of difference in bandwidth, no matter how much Internet speeds have evolved over the years.
I used Google Play Music (RIP) and moved into YT Music for my music streaming needs. The cost of YT premium was marginally higher so I switched for it.
The major issue with YT Premium is that they still collect the data from YT to show targeted ads, but I use also use uBlock, so that doesn’t really bother me as much.
Point is, video hosting services are expensive. The quantity (not quality) of content on YT is way higher than any othet streaming service, and maintaining that for free is pretty close to impossible. The only possible alternative would be a government backed video platform and that’s definitely worse.
Us premium users have no obligation to help non premiums.
At the end of the day Youtube or Google offer no ads experience for us and we get it. Transaction is completed.
“us premium users” “non premiums” holy shit dude, you’re gonna get shafted too, you just pay $14 a month for the privilege of it happening later
Shafted? Got monies , not poor PoS.
LMAO I spend my money on better things like holidays and park visits.
You waste it on a website.
Watch me get the premium experience for free using U-Block origin. Byeee sucker!
Oh I do use Adguard Premium. Sucker.
Somehow paying for Netflix is fine
is it tho? is it?
Only I can have double standards.
Meanwhile I’m over here like:
That scene when he struts up to the guys naked and full of attitude in Chernobyl should have won him an emmy. Love this actor!
It is genuinely embarrassing how much that scene did for me. God that whole series is great.
What series is this?
Chernobyl.
Not the same guy. That was Alex Ferns. This is Michael Hough.
I’ll pay to not be exposed to ads. I’ll also pay to support a service I get value from. So I’m paying for YouTube premium, Netflix, Hulu. etc. When a service with media I want that has a more desirable corporate structure becomes available I’ll pay for that and maybe get rid of other services. I also occasionally sail the high seas if the thing I want isn’t available on any of the services I’m already paying for.
paying for netflix isn’t fine either
I just find the cost of Premium to be too high.
Here in Sweden it costs about 120SEK/month, that is far too much, I’d happily pay 60-70SEK/month, that would be worth it to me.
And would still give rhem more money than me not watching ads
They really do fuck us in the Nordics. It’s DKK179 (SEK281, USD26) for the family plan here in Denmark. Granted that’s the whole family getting YouTube Premium and Music, but that’s also I think the highest price anywhere in the world.
Only service where I’ve done the region thing. Paying 15 kr a month because I signed up through Argentina.
Is that much more than Spotify in Sweden?
No idea, I have never used Spotify
The price is insane just for getting rid of ads. Amazon Prime is cheaper than that and gives you a ton of benefits.
Eh, I watch a lot of youtube to and from the office, for me 60SEK/month would be worth it
Yeah, I’d also be fine paying half the price they charge right now
You think that’s bad? Mention you use a HP printer sometime. I dare you to try it.
Trigger warning:
I have an HP inkjet printer attached to my Windows 11 machine playing YouTube Premium in Chrome without an ad blocker.
Edit: it’s a joke, people.
How else are you supposed to print out your favorite videos?
Has HP started blocking ad-blockers? Seriously it wouldn’t surprise me.
Well owning a HP inkjet is an objectively stupid thing to do.
Thanks for proving my point!
This just makes me sad for you.
Eh, HP has always worked fine for us. I have two sitting here, actually - one is an all-in-one from ~2009 that we printed our wedding programs on when it was new, and it still works fine, but ink is getting harder to find for it, and we had a scare with the irreplaceable print head a few years ago (I got it working, using HP’s “try this if you’re out of options, but it’s unlikely to work” directions, but we realized it was probably time to consider replacing it).
The other is a few years old and is one of the ones with the subscription service. We’ve had a good experience with it, and I spend less on ink than I did with the old one, but that upsets a LOT of people.
I may have exaggerated a bit. We use both HP and Konica Minolta printers at work. Our HP printers are excellent compared to KM.
I haven’t used a printer at home since I was a kid. I bet the situation is different for printers that aren’t going 365 days a year.
I will say that I do not like HP’s ink “DRM” shenanigans.
For what it’s worth, all of HP’s business hardware is very good, whether it’s printers or PC systems. It’s just the cheap consumer-oriented products that suck.
Same thing with Dell
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First, it’s nice to get a reasonable response to my comment. Most of the responses about HP printers are people foaming at the mouth. Even a few here, in a thread meant to be funny, generated some of that.
Yeah, I might go with a laser next time. I’ve read that Brother makes a pretty good laser printer, and I see color models are like $250, which isn’t bad. We’ll see. No major rush right now. I would miss the flatbed scanner; I do use that (maybe as much as the printer) for random things.
Oh…haha…I just went to Brother’s site to look at one, and oh look, there’s a toner subscription service!
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No way, Only Brushes and paint for me. Of course I steal it cause why should I pay for it?
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Using an HP printer is like playing Russian Roulette with a ton of loaded bullets. I say this as someone with multiple HP printers.
I use an HP inkjet with original cartridges
Use Newpipe like a true comrade.
YouTube without ads on Android, and you can run it in the background with/without the screen off.
Newpipe gang rise up
Brand new: https://grayjay.app/
Has downloads, dislikes, Youtube, Odysee, Rumble, Twitch, Kick, and more plugins, no ads, can cast to devices, offline subscriptions and was paid for by Louis Rossman. Out for a week now. Loving it so far. Just needs Sponsorblock and it will replace Newpipe+Sponsorblock for me. It’s open source but paid software.
We offer a way to pay for the app once. The app will function identically without paying.
You can even use it if you’re NOT filthy commie scum!
I subscribe to YouTube Music and have since the Play days (R.I.P.). Watching videos without ads is just a perk.
This is basically my stance. Its also one of a very few subs I use, I don’t really care to watch streaming services or to pay for the slightly (maybe?) better other music streaming services.
I still have Premium but could never accept YT music as a former Play user. Why did they end the best music streaming service for this unusable trash?
Spotify is still worse than Play was, but at least it’s good at recommending music. YT music is worse in every regard. Except for smart watch integration maybe.
Play was the best, especially in the early days with the professionally curated (by humans) play lists. I discovered so much new music. AI generated playlists are terrible.
Hear me out: ublock origin on your computer and revanced manager on your phone.
I use iPhone. And I like downloading videos way way way too much. UBlock origin is goated tho.
And I don’t want ads when I cast to my tv.
https://github.com/qnblackcat/uYouPlus/wiki/Installation
You can sideload an adblocking YouTube app on iOS
Or use a PiHole for your entire network.
That is very useful information. Thanks!
What are the risks of installing a third party App Store like this. I notice it was called TrollStore.
Relatively low risk, these are open-source projects with fairly significant userbases of technical users who can and do call out troubling code if it’s present.
While you are doing so at your own risk, sideloading isn’t inherently risky. It’s far safer than jailbreaking, for sure. The risk is not really with the store, but with the apps you download from it. I recommend only downloading more popular and trusted apps with public code and some community oversight.
Almost none. Just be careful who you give your data to.
PiHole can block YouTube ads? Specifically on iOS?? Didn’t think DNS blocking could accomplish this and an app like Magic Lasso was required?
I use NextDNS and it cannot block iOS YouTube ads.
Honestly not entirely sure about iOS. I use a PiHole and several other adblocking solutions, but don’t personally use any apple devices. Family members with iOS devices have repeatedly commented that they are confused and delighted that they never see ads at my house, though.
And for my old smart TV? Or when I’m at work?
I think I’m more ok with people playing for YouTube premium. It still helps the creators on YouTube more directly than Netflix
except it helps scammers and content thieves more than it helps actual legitimate creators…
I pay for it so my kids’ accounts don’t have ads. They’re too young to sort out all the edge cases that aggressive ad blocking generates and for a bonus we get youtube music.
