For the uninitiated, generally NSFW is for sexual contents and NSFL is for gory contents. People may want to see one but not see the other at any time for any reason. I have seen this feature requested over the years in Reddit but it never happens. Maybe now some instance can finally implement it?

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    Wouldn’t it be better to have more specific tags like movies? e.g. “Sexual content”, “Gore”, “Death”, “Violence” or for content that you truly want to avoid; “US Politics”.

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    It would be wonderful with something more granular than “NSFW”…

    I would love if we got something even more granular like a "Content Warning: ".

    Examples:

    • Content Warning: nudity - might be a painting with nude people, might be a photo of nude people, in essence if it isn’t porn, but there’s exposed genitals, butts or breasts.
    • Content Warning: porn - you can probably guess…
    • Content Warning: gore - images with gore, people missing body parts, often dead as well.
    • Content Warning: death - images with people dying, but without gore.
    • Content Warning: blood - images with some blood, but no death or gore. (often seen in news articles)
    • Content Warning: violence - people fighting, but without turning bloody.

    These could of course be expanded with many more categories if need be.

    EDIT: added violence by request

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      At that point we get a tag system. Content Warning: politics, Content Warning: bad news, Content Warning: dangerous cuteness

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      The first two and the last three are the same lol.

      There really isn’t any need for tuning them even further. They’re both already niche enough as is. The people who are good with the two are good with both. The people good with the last three are ‘good’ with any. You genuinely cannot get any of them without the other lol.

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        Yeah, it’d be better to implement OP’s idea, see how it goes, and then see if there’s need for the others. Gradual changes help admins see what works best, I think. Follow the KISS: Keep It Simple, Supid.

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        Idk man, I think there’s a difference between a titty in a painting and triple anal piss porn

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        The first two and the last three are the same

        I read that as “all five are the same”. And I’m like damn, don’t want to work in a slaughterhouse if that’s true for you!

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        Intensity warning is a good thing. Though it does make tagging complicated, but in this case overlapping tags would do. blood-death and gore-death and simply death.

        probably shouldn’t borrow the exact terms from fandom, but they have tag modifiers like ‘dead dove: do not eat’ which basically means this is an absolute celebration of the previous tag, so gore tag coupled with that tag is gore intensified to the max, while they also use tags ‘slight mentions of gore’ for only a bit of gore. but if you filter out gore both would still be filtered out.

        AO3 runs on open source software and has a very robust tagging system.

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    I would have thought that such a feature would be completely uncontroversial. Really weird that some people seem resistant to it.

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      Most of the resistance to it on Reddit was because NSFL content was technically not allowed on the site at all and adding a specific tag for NSFL material could be seen at legitimizing it. But they didn’t heavily moderate it either so I don’t see the point in refusing a tag for it if they’re not going to do anything about it themselves either.
      What really blows my mind though is the subset of people that want a NSFW tag to mean Gore/Death and a separate PORN tag for titties and such. I mean, we already have established terms for those so why not stick with what everyone already knows them by?

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      Some people get off on shocking others with dehumanizing gore etc. when they thought they were in for a dick pick at worst.

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    I’ve always thought, of all the options to warn us that clicking will put titties on our screen, that “not safe for work” was a bad choice.

    Like, what if your work doesn’t care about titties? What about the tons of other times you wouldn’t want those to pop into your screen without warning, like when you’re on public transit, or sitting next to grandma?

    I’d vote for “LEWD” vs “GORE” or something more clear - users can decide for themselves when it is or isn’t safe.

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      Correct, if you work for e.g. Pornhub, NSFW might have a different meaning

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        I can just imagine the HR conversations at Pornhub. “Steve, we have reason to believe that you’ve been viewing non-pornographic material at work.”

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          “Steve, your numbers are down. We have reason to believe you have not been viewing enough pornographic material at work.”

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          Reminds me of when new episodes of Rick and Morty were being posted on PornHub and they took them down.

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          I can imagine they don’t want accountants or IT people looking at porn while they work though. Their own websites are probably not filtered, but whether the work is for a porn site or a car manufacturer, you prefer them focussing on their work. For a content reviewer though, it’s a different story.

          That being said, there is not enough money in the world that would convince me to become a content reviewer. The shit they have to sit through is often utterly vile and traumatizing. Here is an article about a facebook moderator as an example: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57088382

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            I was mostly joking, but yeah, being a content reviewer has got to be a soul crushing job. I can’t even imagine the shit you would see.

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      My job doesnt care.

      Of course i cant just browse porn all day, but clicking a random picture onnreddit with boobs?

      Nobody cares

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    Having gone through the code a bit, the NSFW handling looks very baked in, so it’s not a small ask. The smart approach would be to add an arbitrary tag system and handle it that way.

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        I love it when my tape quacks.

        FYI it’s duct tape. Duck Tape is a brand that sells a type of duct tape, among other tapes.

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          “Duck tape” actually has a longer history than “duct tape.” While there is also branded Duck™ tape, duck tape, as in adhesive cotton duck, has been around since the 1800s or so.

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        I think it’s both. Instead of trying to update the codebase with one new database attributes for each conceivable way to tag content, you simply put in facilities to abstract that - “show only posts with tag foobar”, “hide all posts with tag foobar”.

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    I don’t care about Reddit (or about growing Lemmy) as much as the average post I see in Lemmy, but if you wanted to migrate people from the former to the latter this is one of the easier ways to help do it. It’s one of those small quality of life things that are asked for periodically. If Lemmy had it it’d be mentioned in Reddit every time people are pissed with the site (which is every day for most sites, including Reddit). It’d be free mouth to mouth word of mouth (being ESL is funny sometimes) publicity for Lemmy

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    Yes please and just call it what it is! “Brutal” and “sexual” feg. Because I for one work in a sex fight fetish porn production studio so to me all of this is very sfw.

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    This is a good idea, anyone who thinks otherwise hasn’t stumbled upon a guy getting his head chopped off when they didn’t want to see it.

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    I think a tag system as suggested by others makes the most sense, as NSFW and NSFL aren’t mutually exclusive.

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    Can this be done with the hashtag tags? Does that functionality already support what OP is asking for?