Living through an event isnt the same thing as being knowledgeable about it. eg. There are plenty of 911 truthers that were around when 911 happened.
To be fair. Truthers for 9/11 don’t disbelief in the event ala Holocaust Deniers or “Covid Truthers”
They believe that the event was arranged by the US government in order to go to War… which many believed at the time and still do “No blood for oil.”
January 6th too
I think zoomers are generally great, but they really underestimated how much of a Wild West the Internet was back in the day, when everybody has their own Angelfire or Geocities website with bad HTML and clipart gifs and people blogged on their LiveJournal and wrote bad fan fictions on forums and all that.
You just kinda learned to be tech savvy for things like “Don’t open random links” and “don’t believe everything you read on the Internet” through trial by fire or having to explain why you broke the computer, and it’s not exactly a skill that you forget. So it’s kinda weird for them to assume that they are better at tech just because they are younger.
I do like this place, gives me nostalgia of the Wild West of these early days. Needs more bad fanfictions here though.
Oh, man, I both agree AND think this post is one of those things.
See, people around Mastodon keep saying “everybody is nice, like in the early Internet”, and my memory of the Internet is full of drive-by porn and gore, weird political takes, illegible websites and malware.
Apparently some study recently flagged zoomers as being worse than even boomers at spotting online threats, with millenials being best, and that checks out to me for the reasons you list.
To many of the users that claim Lemmy is like the early internet, I often see the year 2010 thrown around. Like, are you serious kid? I’ve been on the internet literally since 1991. I’ve seen some shit. Shit you wouldn’t believe.
I’ve seen things… seen things you little people wouldn’t believe. Sharing software off the shoulders of radio waves, bright as the EM spectrum… I rode on the back decks of BBS with a bell 103 and watched 300 bps content glitter in the dark near my Tannhäuser monitor. All those moments… they’ll be gone.
Shit you wouldn’t believe
Attack posts on fire off the shoulder of 4chan.
Removed by mod
Maybe they mean early social media. That term is somewhat misused, though… social media didn’t start with Facebook or Twitter, it began with Usenet and then forums. And yeah, it wasn’t halcyon days back then. We had the same abusive behavior like trolling, alts, bullying, spam, egos and arguing.
I don’t think Lemmy is like 2010 reddit culturally but more like traditional forums though, since on most instances, the regulars all kinda know each other and their admins as well as their personalities, whereas you rarely recongnize any username on reddit unless they are one of these novelty accounts like Vargas or shitty_watercolour or poem (there are exceptions like Unidan or Wil Wheaton but they are rare) and everyone just kinda blends into a blob there.
See, people around Mastodon keep saying “everybody is nice, like in the early Internet”, and my memory of the Internet is full of drive-by porn and gore, weird political takes, illegible websites and malware.
People looking at the past through rose-colored glasses? You don’t say.
Yeah, the early Web was ass. No Wikipedia, no Internet Archive…oh, and it took forever to download anything.
Fuuuck you just made me remember the first time I encountered Wikipedia. It was a recommendation from a teacher in my first class of middle school to read some articles about the topic before writing an assignment. It was a literary life changing moment for me. All this knowledge… for free?
Not that there was anything much to download. But there was a good FTP site FAQ floating around. (for those that remember what the original FAQ files were)
We had to be good at spotting online threats. There were no systems, ai, or algorithms to detect child porn or extreme violence. If you were lucky there were mods. You had to be smarter. I still remember in detail the first time I watched a video of a child cutting a man’s head off. Plus if you broke the only family computer, may God gave mercy on your soul. That’s why I became as good with technology as I am, I broke the family computer and had to have it fixed before anyone woke up. Computers just work now. Remember when devices wanted the same memory so you had to somehow remap it. It was the wild west.
Before itunes really caught on and ages before something like spotify would rise up, millenials cut their teeth on kazaa, limewire and a host of other p2p services trying to get digital copies of our music and movies. Is this really just a low quality pirate rip or is a virus laden exe? ONE WAY TO FIND OUT!
Pamela Anderson nude or horrifying decapitation? Time to roll the dice!
Dick spin or Goatse? Oh boy, I love surprises!
Don’t kid yourself, it’s always the decapitation. Or the Korean scream webcomic. But you’re gonna try anyway
The one time it was a Pam Anderson nude was when I tried to download the music video of Linkin Park - Papercut, turned out to be the intro credits to Barb Wire on loop
napster darude sandstorm
I remember when Napster would let you browse the music folder of ANY computer running Napster. I have so much music still I downloaded from our universities intranet back in 1998 that way.
It was like if you were on a corporate network and everyone shared their music on the server shared folder. Was mind blowing even on 10base-T.
Nothing has come close to repeating g that aside from hoarding music on my own computer.
The early days of Napster were actually good. Things started to suck by the time it got to Limewire or Gnutella, with “hotphotoofgirl.jpg.exe” and whatever. BitTorrent improved the situation.
There are even fewer of us that remember the totally text based forums and IRC that was in many ways the innocent Garden of Eden era, before Eternal September happened. I was very much a child, so I’m not really nostalgic about that era of the net, since it was far more of an echo chamber in many ways back then, but it was “safe” and “innocent” back then. You had to verify sources even more, since the majority of sources weren’t available online, but the vast majority of people using it were not only fluent in at least one human language, they were also fluent in multiple programming languages, Assembly being far more popular than than it is now. This is when you could trust any link. The false actors hadn’t managed to infiltrate the protected Geek Sphere, quite yet.
Then CompuServe happened, and it was no longer a refuge for us computer geeks, all of a sudden there were business people looking at our ideas. They didn’t like them much at all, to say the least. AOL followed and further saturated the net with people who had no idea what they could do with it. This is when us netizens started warning to check the link address before you clicked. Back then, you could easily keep a database list of the false actor domains.
Then the late 90s and mostly 2000 happened. That’s the Wild West you’re talking about. All of a sudden, you HAD to have antivirus programs, you needed many programs such as adblockers that wouldn’t exist for another few years, IRC and Use.net had been piracy hubs, but all of a sudden Napster and Bearshare made those archaic forums unnecessary. Metallica did their thing, accidentally creating a bunch of Metallica fans that would never buy anything by Metallica, but they had access to their entire discography. Hell discography downloads became a thing about this time. Don’t download the entire discography of The Kinks. That shit contains literally 40 to 120 gigs of MP3s across 40(?) albums, depending on compression quality.
I’m a Xennial being born in 1980 and on the net as early as late 1986, early 1987, my father was in the industry and literally helped code parts of UNIX, while he was in The Navy in the early 1970s. I’ve been shown evidence that we were the first household in a multi-state area, thanks to the meticulous data keeping of The Baby Bell that we were part of, that had two dedicated phone lines far earlier than anyone else except my father’s colleagues, all of whom lived multiple states away from us since my father has been remote working as much as he can since SSH was adopted as standard in UNIX. He rejects all technology that he can. He claims that it is all based on extremely faulty programming, and we can’t trust it.
There have been several periods as the net gets bigger, and I don’t doubt that we will look at right now as a “special time” in the future. I’m not sure if that will be because we finally found the limits of LLMs or if it’s because the net will evolve into something that is closer to the spirit of “a place to find the truth through facts,” which is what it started as.
Lol, that takes me back. I used to run a mIrc server for anime porn. 😅
“Margot Robbie teased Sonics longest spines.”
That’s Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie to you!
Also, I don’t think the world is quite ready for that yet.
I’m in my 40s, a project manager at my company and half the time when I can. Tech support I have to send them the goddamn tech support article that I want them to follow.
Plus I have to train all these kids in their 20s on how to use outlook and various other software programs that I’ve been using for 20 years now.
To be fair, there might be an issue with the discoverability of these articles. Restructuring the documentation may lead to less of those issues. Though there is always someone who just opens a ticket before reading anything…
I am blaming chromebooks and iPads for that.
It’s stupid that kids learn to use chromebooks when they are relatively rare in enterprise environments.
Disclaimer: I’m also very young.
For real though! Also, can anybody give me a lead as to which instance on here where I can find bad fanfic? A friend of mine was wondering.
literature.cafe could be it. Their admin, Gabe, is a pretty cool dude.
phuckin’ THIS.
I joined the US military literally a month before 9/11 happened. The day I felt really old was the day we started getting new enlistees who weren’t even born during 9/11. One of them told me they didn’t understand why “ancient US history” was so important in our modern military climate.
This January, Biden officially declared an end to the “War on Terror” that Bush Jr. started, which was a response to 9/11. The way our military operates today is mostly thanks to America’s response to 9/11; we evolved so much in the past 2 decades to keep up with a dangerous new decentralized threat to our nation. It’s kind of a big deal.
While that response is probably very relevant to current US military doctrine, I feel compelled to mention that the “threat” was very centralized in Saudi Arabia, and that while its sad that many innocents died in 9/11, at no point during the last 22 years was an actual credible threat to america. W’s lies and subsequent invasion of Iraq no doubt shaped the US military into the fedex-on-steroids that is is today’s as well as destabilized the entire middle east (and maimed and killed countless people on both sides), but ultimately they were just that - lies. None of the countries the US has fought in since 2001 have ever been an actual threat to the nation.
Remember that sound bite people were being fed, and repeating all the time: I’d rather fight them over there than over here. Preposterous
I feel you with my August 27, 2001 enlistment date. Thought I was getting easy college money instead I got a lifetime of mental problems from a war we shouldn’t have been in.
And the people who supported those wars now don’t and nobody wants to pay for the human costs of that clown show.
Treatment of veterans in the US is tell tell signthis country is ran.
When you got the money but you won’t provide social support that was EARNED, you know what sort of people are in charge and who supports them
As someone who served for 20 years, I’ll tell you that almost no one in my last unit was voting red. Republican politicians use “support our troops” to win votes, but they don’t give a shit about us. Behind the scenes, they’ve been pushing policies to take away our programs and benefits. Democrats are the sole reason we still have any benefits left.
I mentioned in another thread, when the govt shutdown happens, service members don’t get paid until the shutdown ends. But they’re still required to go to work and act like nothing’s happening. And who keeps forcing govt shutdowns as leverage to get their way? Republicans.
As a currently 100% disabled veteran who relies on my VA benefits to survive, I’ll never vote red again.
EDIT: My uncle retired from the US Air Force in the early '90s and they gave him free medical and dental for life as one of his retiree benefits. He applied for VA disability and barely qualified for 10%, which he doesn’t even use.
I retired last summer (July 2022) and I needed to qualify for 100% disability to get the same deal (which is very hard to acquire). Otherwise, they’d only cover whatever long-term ailments I could prove happened during my service and I’d need to pay medical insurance to cover any other medical issues. This was one of the main benefits that encouraged me to join, and Republicans have screwed most people out of it over the past few decades.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Those Jerb Creaturs need those tax cuts to make jerbs. And we’re not talking about the real victims here: the shareholders. We got a Feedouchery Reesposibiluhtee to maximize them profits.
I feels you. Didn’t get in until 2003, but that was in time to take part in Op Phantom Fury, and then do a 2nd tour when Anbar was getting ugly.
Awful lot of misery for a bunch of bullshit. Alls I have to show for it is knee and back problems, and occasional panic attacks if/when stuff looks like tracers; a nephew damn near gave me a heart attack playing with some broken fairy lights one time. Still not comfortable with fireworks or FPS shooters.
Younger cousins of mine are entering their rebel years. I’ve cleaned up a lot in the last handful of years, and am reclusive so they don’t see me much. It’s always kinda fun when they try to shock me with Slayer or Cannibal Corpse, and I get to show them my suicidal black harsh noise band I maintained from highschool through college.
Edit: when I say clean up, I just mean started focusing on school and toned down my clothes. Straight edge has been a way of life for me, always.
Makes me think of a family thing where one young cousin of mine was obviously baked. And everyone knew it. Everyone could see, everyone could smell it. But nobody cared. So the lil fella just sat in the corner the whole time slyly grinning to himself and giggling. Some months later I joked about it in another family gathering and the guy was shocked to find out we knew about weed and what it smelled like.
Weed, ah, what a new fangled thing. Tbh I’ve been in the almost exact position. Something comforting how it keeps happening.
As a teenager a friend and I made up some excuse to sneak away from the adults to go get high. One of the adults knowingly mimed smoking a joint to us.
“How did you know,” we asked.
“I’ve been 16. You’ve never been 40,” he said.
I always laugh at kids who think casual sex was somehow just invented last year.
I always used to smoke at work when I worked as a janitor in my 20s. One time my manager grinned at me as I was coming back in from my break and asked if I was feeling tired. I can keep it together, but the droopy eyelids are a dead giveaway lol
Congrats on cleaning up while still keeping it real
Lemme clarify that when I say clean up, I mean focused on school and toned down my clothing. I’ve been straight edge my whole life and it was often a lyrical theme. I just stopped sounding like a bag of quarters from all the chains on my leather jacket. I look closer to goth Milo from the Descendents.
Ah my mistake. Good clarification. I’ve never been one to wear my interests, so it didn’t occur to me.
Cool that you’ve been straight edge your whole life! So many people take a detour into abusing mind altering substances, especially at a young age.
The birth of the internet, it was not easy getting on the internet back in the day.
There was a very high technical bar to get everything working, everyone was actually really cool, supportive, and generally nice.
Even getting the parts for a computer to work right was an ordeal. You could spend months researching parts and power supplies and cases then it only beeps or whirs when you try to boot.
Not to mention installing Windows required boot floppies before you could put in the install CD. Remember Win95/Win98 bootdisks we kept in our backpacks for emergencies?
Remember borrowing time on the mainframe or programming on a punch card (granted, I was in Junior high when I did that)?
"install CD’
Oh, my sweet summer child …
Wait until they hear about the install case sets of 5.25" floppies.
And then going home and praying it didn’t stall overnight.
When hacking write protect involved Scotch tape.
But why does DOS 3 need more than one 5.25" disk? Too much bloat if you ask me!
Yeah I’ve been thinking about just getting a CD drive on my desktop installed because it just feels weird not having one
I bought my first laptop that doesn’t have an optical drive last fall. I haven’t missed it…yet.
It also doesn’t have an ethernet port, so I bought a usb ethernet adapter for it. I’m not ready to let go of that. (And I often find myself diagnosing network issues, so I do need it occasionally.)
I live in an ETHERNET ONLY HOUSEHOLD
(Also wireless still sucks for gigabit)
My college had gopher early on. You could poke a South African college’s Goper service a few times to tie it up and it’d drop you to a telnet prompt. where I had an early email address from University of Boulder who were just handing them out to whoever wanted one.
One day, there was a pile of people standing arounda computer in the library. Some admin installed mosaic on one of the library computers and we all sat around watching some people hit super early pages, mostly internet project pages. It was a few years before stuff really started getting interesting.
You aren’t kidding. My city was really slow on the Internet so i was using aol. Asking for certs and using CC generators. It was good times actually.
Then I tried IRC and kept getting kicked from every channel and someone finally gave a reason before before kicking me. When i messaged them explaining how i have no other way to access the internet they were actually really cool and invited me back to the channel. I didn’t go back as I knew i carried an unacceptable tag.
A year or 2 later we finally got a provider and oh wow now i remember trumpet windsock and the chaos of trying to find anything.
I still remember seeing a Toyota commercial with a web address and being like wow this internet thing is really taking off!
Now we’ve come full circle and i have to argue with my parents about the “truth” on Facebook. It’s got its perks but terminals and desqview times make me miss the simplicity… or complication. Depends how you look at it .
Oh god I erased winsock from my memory! Our little local ISP had spotty access with weird tools and I also moved to AOL haha.
AOL was a blast at the time. Warez and MFT rooms could fill an inbox with every piece of software you wanted to play with. How about what you could do with LuciferX? Hah
As for winsock, same here. It’s funny how a random post can unearth memories like that. Just one of many reasons I’ve come to enjoy the fediverse. Makes me feel like I should be using Netscape
Pull up a chair son, I’ll tell you a tale of Trumpet Winsock.
Oh fuck. Totally forgot about that! Think I blocked out how bad it was to connect in Win3.1…but those sweet mIRC windows were worth it.
That was before my time, but my early schooling still had some marks from that era. Instead of giving links, we were taught to type out the entire URL. HTTPS and all. I didn’t understand why at the time, but it makes perfect sense. You really didn’t want to have a single wrong letter sometimes. Legally.
Oh there was no one looking at what anyone was doing it was truly the wild west!
At my high school, we installed doom on all the school computers and used to play deathmatch games in computer class.
I can still vividly remember the sounds of the modem connecting
I saw someone the other day claiming that the WWW was always as sanitized as it is now and I was like like “lol… no.”
I remember when you could very easily just stumble upon CP, or bestiality, or any number of disgusting, fucked up shit doing a Yahoo search for something totally inocculous.
I think it was Behind the Bastards that hit the nail on the head about this in an episode in the last couple of weeks: Rick Rolling is goatse for normies. Even the links you trick people into clicking have become relatively sanitized as the web democratized.
And honestly, goatse was far from the most extreme thing that was completely commonplace on the old web. Turn of the century Internet culture was wild.
Sometimes I wonder if all the random murder/gore/beastial shit we stumbled into will be the millennial version of boomers leaded gas fumes, causing some underlying mental issues. Bet a psychology student could get a couple papers out of that.
I doubt someone without serious mental problems would be permanently scarred by that.
Accidentally got my mom with meatspin since she was stalking my AIM lol. Serves her right 🤣
Torrent sites are safe and sane compared to Kazaa or Gnutella in the early 2000s.
F.O.S.I. Apps (in the 90s) was super reliable
also the Phrozen Crew “We always get what we want”
fond memories
Don’t google on goetse, and don’t google on lemonparty.
I can never see wedding bands and old folks homes the same way ever again.
Don’t google “blue waffles” or “crusty pizza.”
Do Google your username because that skit is hilarious.
I remember “Disney Princesses” did not yield the expected results.
Go to DDG
Go to search
Type in Disney Princess Rule34
Turn off safe search
Your Welcome 😘
Consumption Junction was a window into a very dark world.
Tubgirl
I accidentally saw an old woman being fucked by a German Shepherd when I was 12. Life was wild back then
I usually suffer the other way around, with older people saying very wrong stuff “they saw”, but that are very factually wrong
They had it wrong their entire lives, never had it right, or they picked up the narrative somewhere along the way to suit their worldview.
That’s not going to stop happening. “Alternative Facts” is proof that some people never stop trying to block out the reality around them.
E: typo
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.
- Pillip K. Dick
It seems that if there’s enough people that believe in something, that reality hitting can be delayed quite some time. Something like the Idiocracy Effect, if you will.
I sort of enjoy it when my daughter watches a YouTube video about something I knew about in the past and tries to talk to me about it as if it’s a new discovery. “Yes, I’ve heard of Oingo Boingo before.”
My nephew tried to introduce me to Minecraft. It was cute. I tried to tell him I knew about it but he insisted it was this new thing that I couldn’t possibly have known about.
“Is this Roblox?”
Hell I’m 31 and still do this with my own father.
“They’re making memes about this show Columbo… ever hear of it?”
And my dad’s like “I love Columbo!”
My dad is who introduced me to columbo, but knows nothing about Internet culture, so the conversation with us would be more like:
“They’re making memes about Columbo!”
“What’s a meme?”
Just one more thing…
Spent some bank — I got a high powered jumbo/Rolled up a wooly and I watched Columbo…
I just tell my cousins I’ve never heard of the things they talk about. Minecraft? Never heard of it. Is it one of those Korean animays you kids like?
I love when their eyes light up after doing that. You just KNOW they’re about to tell you absolutely everything that they’ve learned about it, in as much detail as possible haha.
A few years back, my cousin learned about star wars. He became obsessed with it, and he figured that adults were too old to know about it. My cousin was APPALLED when I jokingly asked him who Star War’s version of Santa Claus was. Poor lil’ dude almost blew a gasket over that one.
I was teaching swim lessons to some four year olds when one of them asked me if I played minecraft. I told him I do, and he got so excited to tell me all about it.
These kids were good enough that I had them doing laps, but this kid was so excited that he decided that telling me about minecraft was much more important than breathing or staying on top of the water. His mom asked me not to talk about minecraft after that
Lol
I have a 4 year old but he has been shielded from all video games so far.
Hoping he will enjoy playing outside for a little longer tbh. Also we’re doing Legos now.
Animaymays are like so cool and hip
Kids on lemmy these days telling me about 9/11. Dude I was in school that day. I remember it quite well. You weren’t even in your dads balls yet. Stfu.
“I am alive during the invasion of Ukraine, therefore I must know more than someone who spends massive amounts of time researching it 20 years from now.”
Not assuming what they’re saying is well researched, they’re probably not- but being alive during an event doesn’t exactly make you an expert on it just because you watched the news.
It’s honestly the equivalent of saying that because you lived in a country you know more about the sociopolitical status of it and why it got there thab someone who doesn’t. Like when people say “you never lived in X type of country, so you have no idea why it was so bad.”
I’d trust a sociology professor from the UK about why living conditions in America are so bad for the average working class person much more than a MAGA conservative nutjob who believes in the deep state trying to replace white people. Just like how this post doesn’t really prove that just because you were there means you’re an expert in that event or why and how it happened.
It depends on what you want to know. A UK sociologist could absolutely explain the school to prison pipeline better than a maga nutjob, but they won’t talk about how the crosswalk light has been broken in town for two years, but the cops have new cars.
To be clear, the sociologist is more important for being well informed about a subject, but the individual stories are more interesting for me every time.
I absolutely don’t doubt that individual accounts will have useful lessons to learn. But personal experience will always have personal biases. People will literally change the way they experience reality to facillitate their world view, which is why the sentiment of this post is stupid af. Just because “you were there” doesn’t make you any more of an arbiter of truth than someone who wasn’t. At most it provides you with the advantage of a perspective more directly affected by said events.
I don’t disagree, and I know that what a history class wants to know isn’t likely coming from a random person’s account.
I do think that’s why I thought history was boring in school though- I care very little about the date of the signing of the magna carta, but I would have loved a rogue priest writing about how he thought things changed. Literally, if all he cared about was that they now had to pay less taxes or got less support, that would be cool to know. I know that learning about appeasement is important, but I got much more out of memoirs from people during the holocaust. Reading about one of the imprisoned Jews being really irritable in (I think) Night was a revelation for eleven year old me- I’d only previously read about them being afraid and meek, and that wasn’t the full spectrum of emotions, so it felt shallow comparatively.
My sister teaches at a historical magnet school, and one of the things they do is group events differently, so you might learn about the magna carta, blair mountain, and occupy Wall Street together, to look at power in collectivity, for example. I hear about this and see the value, but it does feel subjectively wild to include occupy there. I think the proper way to voice that is through a light hearted tweet, not rejecting immediately any differing view.
Completely irrelevant to the topic, but I only ever hear about magnet schools in the context of LA- do they only really exist there?
This one is very far from California :)
Individual experiences definitely have biases, but time and time again history textbooks have also been shown to have significant biases. Not to invalidate them, but any source will have a bias, and you can have a bias yet still be accurate.
I was at work listening to it on the radio 💀
If it’s any consolation, I was a Junior in HS.
I was in English class and that teacher also taught an elective on Film History, so she had a big screen TV in the room (big, for the time and for being in a classroom…It was probably a 40” tube). A couple of the adjacent rooms came in and we watched the second tower get hit with Katie, Matt, Al, and Ann.
I was at an Evangelical Bible college, my first month away from home. People genuinely thought it was the end times and Jesus was coming back that day.
I was spending 11 days in jail when it happened. My entire life felt like it was upsidedown.
I am so curious: did they tell you? Did your routine change? Did everyone care?
It was all a lot of us watched in the commons room I was in. Others kept playing Kaiser, and daily routine was uninterrupted otherwise.
I was a freshman in high school at the time and ironically was in my third period social studies/American history class.
I was heavily hung over and spent all day in my pajamas watching TV.
Dude I had a flight booked that day, and my birthday was later in the week.
That shit changed EVERYTHING.
Lol… I was lying in bed with my (now ex) wife 2 days after getting home from our honeymoon in Costa Rica
ok boomer
Found the dumbass kid 👍
ok boomer²
ok boomer
YOU DAMN KIDS, GET OFF MYSPACE!
ok
boomermillennial
10 facts about sex
old person: “i remember how it was”
sex=dirty
air=clean
If I ever have a child, I cannot for them to discover things like Pokémon or some other game/anime/cartoon series I was there to witness and then think I’m so old I don’t know about it.
It’s happened to me with friends kids. Asking me if I’ve heard of Pokemon. Kid, I was your age when Pokemon first came out.
Yeah… my young nephew just recently asked me if I ever heard of Minecraft… kid, I was playing Minecraft before it was “infinite”.
Back when it actually got dark at night. Before it ran my adhd ass off by adding too much shit to do.
Once you had to feed the player I was overwhelmed.
I think I started playing around the1.1 or 1.2 release updates, but with the whole chat reporting, the chat/sign censorship, and now the terms of service changes, I just completely dropped the game. That, and Minetest runs more smoothly on my current desktop.
I played alpha based on this guy I worked with. He came to work almost hungover from lack of sleep. He said that this sandbox survival game had him hooked. I believe I paid $8 back I’m October of 2009.
I have nieces and nephews who ask me about minecraft now. It’s comical. I’ve played longer than they have been alive…
Yeah, that’s about when I picked it up too. My now wife and I played it one night. I got into it, she didn’t.
My little cousin asked santa for a pikachu, as the grown adult I am I obviously asked for a pikachu too
My 6-year-old niece was shocked to learn I knew all about My Little Pony.
Even something as recent as nephews getting into Minecraft because of the Caves & Cliffs update, like please, I remember when 1 block of water could ruin an entire server
don’t forget how a single flint and steel was the most devastating weapon available in forest biomes
I remember staying up all night chopping a firewall into our mega forest, trying to stay away from the chunks that were on fire
I had a sort of backwards version of this, see I was the first born come and only to my mother, but the first one to any of those sired by my grandparents. (I think Dad was like 19 she was 18… something around then)
So fast forwqrd like 30 years later my 50-something aunt suddenly is supper knowledgeable about pokemon, when I clearly remember her just not getting it way back then. And I ask her how the hell does she know all this stuff about evolution and regional variants…
And she reminds me that her son is like 12 now… and I’m like “That scans”
Yeah, that’s one of the things that make me sad that i don’t have children. When i watch friends with their children, i’m truly envious of the experience with mini-me
There’s a local burger place that has a burger called the Royale with Cheese,after Pulp Fiction, and one night I overheard some kid in there telling his friend it was named after some movie from the 1980s. I could not stop myself from yelling “You’re about 15 years off the mark”.
It definitely has an 80’s vibe to it, which I think is part of what Tarantino was going for. His movies are usually a satire/parody of certain genres, and Pulp Fiction is definitely an homage to the crime/mobster movies of the 80’s.
Yes but I just couldn’t let it slide.
Honestly, good for you. I’ve been burned so many times by thinking “oh, it was recent,” then I guess that the new grinch movie came out in 2014.
I tried to make that a real guess, then I looked it up, and apparently there was another one in 2018, but rest assured, I meant the one from 2000 (?!)
1994, so five years off the mark
At best. At worst 14 years off. Split the diff and call it 7.
1987 felt like a different universe to me than the mid '90s. (I’m mid 40s, so grew up during that time.)
I dunno, purple was still a popular fashion color well into the 90s. That and teal.
Just wait until they start lecturing you on things you taught them.
My mom is 70 and she’s still fucking lectures ME on shit that she can’t even get straight.
Her new one: don’t eat salmon, it causes salmonella.
We used to eat Salmon like at every major holiday.
Like when someone starts working at your company and starts bagging out the process and whomever built a project they really really wanted to work on and it turns out it’s you who set it up.
for reasons such as budget cuts and you had to make it work and you managed to make it work on nothing but bubblegum and tape and here this person is saying how you did it wrong without knowing youre the person who achieved something really great against impossible odds.
I just walked away and worked somewhere else that had a better pipeline. I’ll let them figure it out the hard way. They can beg management how they need more money to achieve even half of what I did. Fuck em. I’m too old to debate for myself when I already achieved a lot to get them there.
Or: you explain it to them. If they are not a complete asshat you might even be able to teach them something and you cant blame newcomers for peaking on the dunning kruger curve.
No one owes you knowledge. I can walk out and work elsewhere. So You’re not my job. you could ask questions and be respectful to others as much as you expect it. Treat others as you want to be treated. Or not. I’ll just leave. And I owe you nothing for your Entitled attitude toxifying the workplace.
Not gonna lie. You sound pretty toxic to me.
“no one owes you knowledge” actually teammates do owe you knowledge that’s part of being on a team. You work together towards a common goal.
Criticism is a gift.
rudeness mixed with wild assumption is the unskillful calling card of an amateur.
Again: if you are faced with budget cuts criticism does nothing to fix that. Only ideas can. If you have time to stand and do nothing but criticize, you had time to help. If you didn’t then you’re not part of the team and should be shed for the health of the goal. Or have it your way: remain shitty and lose all your valuable players and lose the project. We owe you nothing.
Criticism is helping.
Growing a culture that welcomes and engages criticism leads to better results. Creating a culture which is defensive and fragile to criticism leads to bad products and stagnation. The “in versus out” tribal mentality you articulate is unhelpful.
I recommend checking out this concept https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agonism
I can remember the first time a young person tried to tell me about some Booth fella was the one that shot JFK.
And I was like oh no son, you’re severely mistaken. It was Lincoln that assassinated Washington, I was there on the banks of the Potomac and watched the whole thing unfold.
If only there was some way to easily confirm that by typing it into a search engine
That’s hogswash, Bobby. I assassinated George Washington. Abraham Lincoln is the devil!!
I was there when Lincoln became a Vampire Killer - can’t fool me
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet.
That’s the Wright Brothers’ plane! In Kitty Hawk in 1903, Charles Lindbergh flew it 15 miles on a thimble full of corn oil. Single-handedly won us the Civil War, it did.
