I believe it works so well on those who are in a bad financial situation because whatever little money they make, they want to/need to keep as much of it as possible.

That makes them an easy target of “we’re going to lower taxes.” While of course only doing it for the wealthy and screaming the left wants to give your hard earned money to lazy people, immigrants, sex changes or whatever marginalized group is the flavour of the year to attack.

None of this applies to me but the avoiding doctors part. Am I up in here with a bunch of multi millionaires or something?

Their right or your right ?

I know your comment isn’t truly asking, but I want to answer just because there was a time when I used to put a lot of pressure on myself to generate something truly insightful, creative, deep, etc. before voicing my thoughts or opinion. Then I realized you don’t need to do that. I still have a tendency to - and I’m not saying everyone should just voice their loud-ass bullshit without thinking.

You likely have an insight that someone would find interesting, even if it seems entirely obvious to you. Great conversation can sometimes be a very simple volley back and forth of extremely basic observations.

Run with whatever logic this makes your mind go to… even if it’s something like “crazy that people vote to give rich people more money” or another basic interpretation of this. It gets the ball rolling for other people, let’s them put a new spin on it, and may be that little spark needed to create something more impactful.

Is there a website? I’m just finding Instagram and I pretty much hate that.

Sure, now your out of the in group, because I say so, do my bidding serf. Complain more about the concept of ‘mine’ while we all burn. oh wait /s

those who are too lazy to work

What no understanding of the necessity of the surplus army of labor under capitalism does to a mfer.

those who are too lazy to work

This didn’t take long to draw in a bootlicker.

“Now keep downvoting for sharing my ignorant, hateful and biggoted views. Gosh, one cannot be a bigot without being downvoted these days, specially on leftists communities. What happened to the good old days when one could be a bigot and hate on immigrants all day long without being called out for it!”

Please, do enlighten us on how the homeless and jobless cost a lot of money and then show us how much this impacts the national debt? You can then show us how much spending on those elements compares to other spending such as oh I don’t know military budgets. While you’re at it, why don’t you contextualize that in the case of currency sovereignty, and through modern monetary theory? You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. You think national debt works like debt works for you and I but it doesn’t. If you don’t believe me how about listening to the the words of Dick Cheney - “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter”. It’s why the republicans present themselves as the ‘party of fiscal responsibility’ all the while running up record levels of national debt every time they are in power.

You have no idea how to balance a budget.

“Hmm, candles cost me 1500$ a month. But on the other hand, I could save 200$ a month if I reduced my groceries. I need to save 1000$, clearly I’ll just stop buying groceries” that’s your solution lol

You could have literal millions more immigrants or social welfare recipients, tax the rich properly, and be able to afford it.

Costs associated with illegal immigration aren’t really all that clear cut, from what I’ve seen. Undocumented immigrants generate a lot of revenue and economic activity and pay a lot in taxes while not being able to use most government services.

The major drag on revenues that I was able to find is on state/local governments that fund education for undocumented children, which should probably be remedied with more federal funding to offset.

Tons of datapoints cited at the Wikipedia page on the subject

The phrase “a lot of money” means two very different things here. The difference in scale between illegal immigrants and the jobless, and the oligarchs, is so many orders of magnitude that’s the difference between them and you is near nothing. Billionaires are not just a little bit richer than you, they have more hoarded than you will make in your lifetime, while illegal immigrants and jobless are more than likely worse off than you and if they’re not you should be shouting to improve your lot not shouting to worsen theirs

A quick google search shows that the total the UK spent on unemployment benefits last year was £1,860,000,000, and on illegal immigration cost £3,000,000,000. Meanwhile Rishi Sunak (our prime minister) and his wife are worth about £1,200,000,000 between them. The median net worth in the UK is apparently £302,500 - that means Sunak and his wife have NEARLY FOUR THOUSAND TIMES more money than most people in the UK, or, if you subtract one from the other, about £1,200,000,000 more money than the average UK household. The Sunak family could literally count most net worth as a rounding error!

Scale on that… well… scale is hard for humans to grasp, but it really does matter in this case

Now I’m not saying he should pay for all of it personally, but he should certainly stop making a song and dance about it and pay his own fair share! The average UK household paid about £55,641 in tax last year. Rishi Sunak pair £1,900,000. Yes that’s more but it’s only 34 times more. Lets be generous and assume that his wife paid twice as much so it;s 100 times more (she doesn’t, she’s officially non-domiciled and therefore pays about £30,000 to avoid paying UK tax of potentially £20,000,000 in tax), that’s still about 2.5% percent of the average taxation as a percentage of net worth.

This should make you angry