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      It’s a slow top-down, follow the chain of command, follow policy, follow the chain of custody, vote, protest, violently seize the means of production,

      until we have universal healthcare.

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        Means of production? Shit is produced in china? You mean attack china?

        We have universal healthcare without any of that. Strikes and organisation is the key.

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        so what you’re saying is that its gotta wait till it trickles down to us then

        (JOKE please for the love of god dont kill me trickledown econ is for the stupid)

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        violently seize the means of production

        I was with you until this point.

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      Until the filibuster is gone or there are 60 dem senators, a vote on universal healthcare will just be performative. You’re not going to get any Republicans voting for that.

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        And then? Let it be performative. Make it the top issue every single day. Make sure nothing gets done until it gets done. Tie to budget, tie it to cabinet appointments, tie it feel good bills that do nothing. A single issue that shuts the government down until resolved. Eventually it will be. The DNC keeps playing nice and keeps failing.

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          Republicans: Democrats want to shut down the government??

          No. Wait. Stop.

          See, your problem is in thinking Republicans want a functioning government.

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            Some of them don’t even want a functioning world and are actively trying to end it for all of us to bring the day of the rapture closer

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              My term for those is “Left Behind Christians”. There’s a lot of them. Worse than Jihadists.

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              Seven Mountain Cult is honestly terrifying if not for the simple fact of how effectively they’ve infiltrated governance and actively campaign for the end of the world.

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                I’d never heard of this before and looked it up. That’s concerning. I don’t have enough time right now to look deep enough to find which politicians are a part of it, however. Are there any in the House of Representatives or the Senate you can know of?

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                  I don’t think there’s any members of government who are members of a church that espouses the Seven Mountain Mandate, but prettyuch the entire “Freedom Caucus” is very buddy buddy with a lot of influential people from Seven Mountain Mandate churches.

                  These churches also routinely are seen with celebrities such as Justin Bieber, the Kardashian, etc.

                  They would also tell you they’re not an apocalypse cult and they just want to “bring about the second coming”

                  But like, that’s an apocalypse cult. If you want to end the world, you’re an apocalypse cult.

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            Seriously, if the GOP could have excuses to call for budget cuts and ending programs, and they didn’t even have to be the ones to come up with ways to stop the government from functioning in the first place? A dream come true for them

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          I didn’t realize you were talking about Republicans at first because of how bad they’ve gotten. I don’t even question it anymore with how normalized their evil policies have gotten.

          I think they were a lot better at covering this up until 2010 when the Tea Party took hold. Since then they’ve been more and more blatant about it, culminating in totally taking off the mask in 2016. It seems to me that beforehand, the party elite carefully curated both their image and policies to have plausible deniability. With them losing control to the inmates however, the party hasn’t just thrown away their cover, they’ve decided to go for even worse policies.

          It’s like they realized their followers are a cult, and they’re curious to see if anything they do goes too far to them. It’s such a pathetic state of affairs.

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          Almost as wild as the turkies actually voting for Christmas.

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          I think most republican voters simply care more about “other people can’t get a free thing that I had to pay for” or “I don’t want universal healthcare because I’m healthy and I don’t need it”. Which are both incredibly selfish mindsets. The GOP knows about these mindsets and does everything they can to encourage them.

          I think they now are so far gone that they find it easier to convince voters by spreading propaganda than it is to win people with good policies. I think part of it is that on the policy front, there’s stiff competition. But on the identity politics front, it’s not even a competition. The GOP is massively better at propaganda and identity politics. They know they’re better at it, which is why they’ve leaned so heavily into it while also having so little else to offer. Fixing problems often gets in the way of profit, so they don’t have an incentive to actually fix many problems (at least not for normal people).

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        Well then perhaps the Democrats ought to engage in progressive theatrics as fascist theatrics seem to be effective.

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    I like that the thumbnail is John Fetterman. Like who else could this be almost explicitly aimed at.

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      Exactly. Now watch, some of the GOP that complained about Fetterman’s clothing choice will take it to the extreme and wear a chicken costume or something.

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          Ugh, you know what, I think you’re absolutely right. That’s gonna happen sooner or later. I dunno when, but I entirely expect it to eventually (or maybe very, very soon).

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        Well there was a literal orange clown in the oval office for a few days so republicans were already dressing up

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          Lauren Boebert has gotten into the habit of dressing down too it sounds like

          Ya know. With the whole tits out while jerking off her date in public around kids and all that.

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        For sure someone is going to try to leverage this. What back-bencher will jump at it, and make a splash?

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        I look forward to all the cock jokes. I’m thinking something like:

        “Which is the bigger cock: Hunter Biden’s penis, or this chode in a chicken suit?”

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      Poor guy got so depressed having to wear a suit they changed the dress code. I can empathize. My boss told me to put a dress shirt on if I’m on camera with customers and I hate it.

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    Although senators will benefit from the change by being permitted to sport casual clothes in the Senate chamber, their staffs are still required to wear business clothes under the old dress code. People other than senators who walk on to the Senate floor will also need to wear business attire, which for men means a jacket and a tie.

    One rule for thee but not for me.

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        I can understand if they have some important meeting. If some foreign dignitary is going to be stopping by, you’ll want people to dress up. However, this should be the case for Senators and staffers. If it’s just a normal work day, there’s no reason that the staffers can’t go with casual clothing.

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          Yeah that’s pretty much what I mean, with this change, the senate is proclaiming that there’s no need for formal dress on a “regular day in the office” (which I 100% agree with), but to make that declaration, while still insisting your staffers stay formal is literally saying “We get to be comfortable because we’re important and rich, and you can stay uncomfortable, because who gives a shit what you want.”

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        Nonesense. Now, go and spend enough money to buy a week’s food on a long strip of ornate silk and symbolically knot it around your neck like a noose as is demanded by the customs of your corporate masters.

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        Seriously. I joke that I specifically became a sysadmin because a T-shirt (and occasional polo), jeans, and sneakers or boots is already formal for me.

        … it’s only partially actually a joke.

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          When I was a scrub whose daily tasks involved running eternity cables, supporting warehouse machines, etc. I convinced my boss than business casual was a waste of money unless he wanted to buy my work wardrobe. This was back when I was 20ish, so 23 years ago

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            For real - who the hell wants to be commando-crawling through a datacenter in slacks and loafers? Total fucking nonsense.

            I went full remote in early 2018, so now you’d have to put a gun to my head to be in anything more than shorts and a wifebeater while I work. I’m popping into the office this Thursday and for a minute, I was afraid I didn’t have any long jeans left for the occasion lmao

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        When I started my current job (over 20 years ago), I dressed in dress pants, a sport jacket, tie, dress shoes, and dress shirt. Over time, I ditched the sport jacket.

        Then COVID hit and I began working from home. Now my work dress is a nice shirt (polo or solid print) and jeans or shorts (depending on the weather). No shoes needed.

        Now, I wouldn’t want to go back to the more formal dress code. Sure, it means that the dozens of cool and geeky ties that I accumulated over the years won’t be used. Still, I’d rather be comfortable and still look professional than be dressy and uncomfortable.

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          shoot - that’s still way more dressy than I do for my Work from home lol

          My standard outfit is just a comfy t-shirt (sometimes a tanktop if it’s >100 outside) and either basketball shorts or sweatpants depending on the weather

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            Anything more than a polo shirt is too fancy for me. Half the time I just stay in my jammies until I need to go somewhere or take a shower.

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    Everyone will live long enough to regret this. Matt Gates will show up in a thong and a gas mask to protest something and the votes won’t be there to bring things back the old rules.

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      That would run about as well as the nancy pelosi kente cloth. The way you own republicans is by damaging their ability to gatekeep, not by just doing the thing they do but different.

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    I’d love to see the moral scolds on the right pipe up about how scandalous this all is, right after Lauren “handy” Qbert was caught on video…

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    This is part of a slow trend towards powerful people dressing casually to differentiate themselves from the less powerful people who work for them. Historically, trends like this have been set by the elite and are then emulated by people trying to convince others that they are elite. This is the beginning of the end of formal wear in the United States. Soon a suit will mean “i work at a hotel”.

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      Hence this part, perhaps?

      Although senators will benefit from the change by being permitted to sport casual clothes in the Senate chamber, their staffs are still required to wear business clothes under the old dress code. People other than senators who walk on to the Senate floor will also need to wear business attire, which for men means a jacket and a tie.

      Rules for thee, not for me.

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        Zelenskyy I guess has no other choice as his country is in war and he is the supreme commander of his forces

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            I know but wearing olive drab is good for his soldier’s morale… “I’m on this with you” kind of thing

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            He frequently visits them however. OD is extremely practical in his case and definitely the exception to this stuff

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      Oh this could be ingenious. Republicans will get pissy and wear a full suit all the time but the Dems will dress more and more like the average American. They will actually look like they’re of the people while the GOP play themselves into looking like a Jack Donaghy cosplay convention.

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        Honestly doubt anyone will vote differently because of attire. If anything, the conservative commentators will say that the Dems are being lazy and undignified if they aren’t wearing suits. We’ll probably see most senators continuing to dress formally anyways because it’s a symbol of power.

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      I don’t think so. I think this time is different. At some point the leadership was no longer the trendsetters. I am not going to buy a certain shirt because I saw Biden or Bezos wearing it. I might if someone I think is actually cool did. Maybe we just aren’t some weird pyramid society anymore.

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    I hope this goes to the House too so I can finally see Boebert in her wal mart pajama pants

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    Eh, I’m fine with it being loosened up, but is it really “whatever they want”? If it is then I’d think annoying attention-grabbing messaging would become an issue. (Or, not an issue, in the grand scheme of things, but another in a long list of distractions)

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      attention-grabbing messaging

      This is what the GOP would call a senator wearing a rainbow shirt, for instance. Should that be a reason to restrict self-expression?