A recent spate of polling paints a bad picture of declining support for the president from voters of color. But just how worrisome is it?

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    So, to understand these trends, I’ve assembled a few theories, informed by conversations with pollsters, strategists, and Democratic party operatives, for why this polling gap continues.

    “We can’t bury our head in the sand and give excuses about why the polling is wrong,” Chuck Rocha, the Democratic Latino consultant who has frequently been critical of his party’s work with voters of color, told me.

    “Times have changed and if we continue to rely on these constituencies to vote at such a high number, I’m afraid Democrats will be disappointed unless we put in the work needed to get them there.”

    Democrats seem to face bigger hurdles to retaining support from Black and Latino men, compared with women, while Biden specifically is underperforming with lower-income voters of color.

    So it’s possible that Biden has artificially deflated support just because of who he is: his age, his background, his approach to politics, him being an old-school politician in a party that has increasingly become more progressive and wants more dynamism in their leaders,” Cox said.

    As my colleague Andrew Prokop has explained, the polls conducted over the last year have told a consistent story — one of near-even support for Biden and his Republican rivals in battleground states and nationally.


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    Well, for one, Biden’s the guy who penned the crime bill that pipelines our communities to carceral slavery. For two, Biden’s the guy who picked a fucking cop-- and not just any cop, California’s “Top Cop” to be his VP. For three, he’s a strike-breaker-- some ‘pro-union’ president we have. I wholly expect him to torpedo the UAW strike too, within the month; regardless of whatever mealymouthed ‘backing’ he’s given the UAW for the cameras.

    All in all, I still haven’t been given good reason to vote for the walking cadaver. And no, your personal boogeyman is not good enough.

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      I still haven’t been given good reason to vote for the walking cadaver

      Biden didn’t reach you when he said, “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black”?

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        Not one bit, since everyone who’s ever had the gall to try and tell me what I was and wasn’t has been white themselves. Y’all literally do not move me anywhere but fuckin contempt anymore, and he’s just another relic of the Jim Crow era to me after that. “Strom and I shared a life for 30 years”, he said, eulogizing a goddamn klansman, and you want to justify him quantifying someone’s Blackness by whether or not they were “for him”, fuck outta here you absolute plantation boss.

        You and everyone who thinks like you; who think that they can quantify the essential identities of the colonized, and demand its energy without recompense or exchange, would’ve been measuring out the ropes a hundred years ago.

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      Uh… The railway union got their demands in the end. Biden just did it without paralyzing the economy. Quick reminder that strikes are a means (and not one you wanna use, at that), not an end.

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        (and not one you wanna use, at that)

        If the execs won’t give labor what they’re due, labor is within their rights to take them by the short hairs for as long as it takes. Beyond that, they didn’t get the paid sick leave that was on the demands, and they have to burn their own leave time for sick days. You know, half the fucking reason they struck in the first place that isn’t the ATROCIOUSLY dilapidated state of our nation’s rails, and lack of proper safety inspections that will lead to more catastrophic derailings. One fucking extra day, wooo. Some victory.

        But y’know, you get your freight on time so I guess that’s a victory for you, huh? And honestly, fuck your conciliatory figureheads. You want me to take you serious, show me what the actual rank-and-file are saying.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    So, to understand these trends, I’ve assembled a few theories, informed by conversations with pollsters, strategists, and Democratic party operatives, for why this polling gap continues.

    “We can’t bury our head in the sand and give excuses about why the polling is wrong,” Chuck Rocha, the Democratic Latino consultant who has frequently been critical of his party’s work with voters of color, told me.

    “Times have changed and if we continue to rely on these constituencies to vote at such a high number, I’m afraid Democrats will be disappointed unless we put in the work needed to get them there.”

    Democrats seem to face bigger hurdles to retaining support from Black and Latino men, compared with women, while Biden specifically is underperforming with lower-income voters of color.

    So it’s possible that Biden has artificially deflated support just because of who he is: his age, his background, his approach to politics, him being an old-school politician in a party that has increasingly become more progressive and wants more dynamism in their leaders,” Cox said.

    As my colleague Andrew Prokop has explained, the polls conducted over the last year have told a consistent story — one of near-even support for Biden and his Republican rivals in battleground states and nationally.


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    You can tell this long article was written by a political junkie. Most voters, minority or not, don’t pay attention to the political horse race, they judge the government on the economy. Inflation and high gas prices are the two things they hate most of all, and even if it’s not entirely Joe Biden’s fault, too bad; that’s just how presidents are judged. No mystery there.

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        But the trend is in line with the trend in the rest of the population. So the basic hypothesis should be that the things driving Biden’s unpopularity in the broader electorate are also hurting him among minorities. Going beyond that, inflation is known to hurt economically disadvantaged groups more than others.

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          That is not true. There was a 538 podcast episode about this very topic recently. While Dems usually win overwhelming support from Blacks and Latinos, support for Biden is softer than for Dems in the past. Meanwhile, his support amongst white voters is higher than usual.

          I also think it’s funny that you end by offering a hypothesis for why he’s losing support amongst this group. If there were no mystery, then you wouldn’t need to offer a hypothesis.