More than half of it

  • ComradeSalad
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    1 year ago

    I feel like it was to have diversity in the list. I doubt it would be very interesting if they just had 5 Nazis in the top of the list.

    Also Ghengis can be as friendly as he likes, but I feel like the rampant imperial conquests that saw the deaths and enslavement of millions of people kinda makes him evil. Even if it wasn’t him directly doing it.

    Also there is no way that you have a large percent of the world population with some Ghengis DNA without commit some very evil acts.

    • Farman [any]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      If the top 5 most evil are nazis and the other 5 are american presidents, maybe that tells us something about wich cultures are more prone to evil. It certainly disproves the idiotic pinker statment tgat humanity is becomong better.

      As for the mongol dna… how sure are we about those molecular clocks? For example going by them and folk ethnology people think the hazara are mongol decendants but there is mentions of them living there as far back as the selucid era. Hazara probably means people who laugh a lot in old iranian, a reference to their epicantic folds.

      The genetic gengis khan is more likley to represent a milenia long difussionary proces in which steppe people moved gradually to the peripheral regions of eurasia and had more reproductive succes than the peasants because pastoralism generates more wealth per unit of labor than agriculture once you have domestic horses. It also likley includes all sorts of steppe invaders, turks, huns, manchus, japanise, avars etc. Not just mongols. And while he certainly contrubuted, gengis khan is not the sole cause of it. The genetic gengus khan Its a proxy for a very long historical demographic process.

      Him being conqueror may make him evil but there are way more evil people than him. One of the reasons he was so succesful was precisly that he wss a friendly guy. If you really need a mongol to make the list because of ethnic quotas pick amir timur. By some estimates he killed 13-17 million people vs 6-13 by all other mongol conquerors. In a much smaller area.