Have anti immigration people ever stopped to think about why others risk their lives and choose to leave everything they know to come to a land of better opportunity? I’m all for doing it legally and having immigrants pay taxes, but trying to kill them to stop it is ridiculous. America is easily the richest country on the planet, and has more than enough resources to help these people.
They’re mad a new immigrant may be successful, when they should be furious at the ultra wealthy for hoarding all the money.
Have anti immigration people ever stopped to think >
No.
I mean if you have a 10 minute conversation with some native French folks they will give you a lot of really good arguments against allowing open borders for immigrants. Germany has the same problem.
Totally agree with you, we should not be allowing any disgusting French or German people into the US.
That would require empathy.
They don’t even hurt the economy overall. The people coming over are typically of working age, generally motivated and commit serious crimes at a rate less than half of native citizens. Texas has really good stats on this. The only stat illegal immigrants rate higher are moving violations. Possibly because they may not have licences or as much experience driving.
I’ve heard the arguments. It’s to take our jobs and our money. Would they like to do the jobs they claim are being stolen? No. But it’s great opportunity for young entrepreneurs, like lawn mowing! Are their kids going to do that? No. They’ll probably try YouTuber and Twitch long before anything else.
Don’t forget that the immigrants are simultaneously lazy, living entirely off of welfare, and stealing hard working Americans’ jobs. They’re Schrödinger’s Immigrants!
They’re not sending their best but they’ll take your job! (We’re saying you’re worse than them but you don’t realize it).
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Immigrants do pay taxes. Even the undocumented ones. They don’t get the same benefit as the rest of us though. So most of the time we are taking advantage of them.
If you don’t like that source there are plenty of others you can Google too.
It’s crazy to think they don’t pay taxes. It just doesn’t make logical sense. How are they going to avoid it? The company paying them isn’t going to be able to just hide that, so they have to register it and the taxes get paid.
Most of them are misinformed, if the knew what the US was really like they’d probably sail to Canada. Being the richest doesn’t mean jack shit when there’s nothing invested in the power classes.
That would require them to realize how much the US has destabilized Central America over the past century.
You’re describing the average conservative. The people who push the view that immigration is ruining the US aren’t average conservatives. They’re the ones who lie to conservatives to spin them into a rage in order to manipulate their vote. Those people are not themselves conservatives, but figureheads that collect a nice pretty penny from the rich folk to make sure the anger of their base never turns against the class whose fault everything actually is.
In short, as long as conservatives keep letting their talking heads tell them who to be mad at, they never will be furious at the ultra wealthy. And that’s by design.
The people who push the view that immigration is ruining the US aren’t average conservatives
Yes, they are.
The big problem with that comment is most of them are also saying immigrants are taking our jobs, but they won’t work them because the money isn’t good enough for the actual work that they do.
And these business owners complaining about this will turn around and hire them because they are willing to work for less than minimum wage increasing the businesses profit.
All in all, if you look at it reasonably, the ultimate problem is created by business owners wanting to make more money and to do that push slave labor wages that only the immigrants are willing to take.
I do like hiring illegals, they are good workers and never ask for too much. If they do kick up any fuss you can always just call ICE
Maybe I framed that statement wrong. Of course they are the ones that say it the loudest. But it’s not them who introduced that mindset into conservative crowds. Just like the recent flare up of transphobia. They hear it from the top that trans folk are molesting children, or that immigrants are taking jobs, or whatever the thing is that keeps their ire off of the rich, and they spread it around their own circles because they need an out group to villify.
You haven’t noticed that hatred for these groups tend to be a conveniently-timed deflection from actual problems?
Getting the average Democrat riled up and angry at the average Republican is also by design. As long as the working class is mad at itself, it isn’t looking at the ruling class as the problem.
The ruling class is absolutely the source of the problem.
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Conservatives are too stupid to understand this argument.
Cruelty is the point, it’s practically a virtue. And that cruelty also drives down wages so it’s a message that gets plenty of air time.
Good. But watch them refuse to do it. They would rather kill people.
Yep, they’re Good Christians who believe in the “sanctity of life”.
Sanctity of the life they choose.
Murderers gonna murder.
They’ll go to jail for contempt if they refuse. I’m honestly surprised a preliminary injunction would require this though.
Edit: they’ve already filed an appeal on that order (interlocutory appeal) today https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67630985/united-states-v-abbott/
Judge pretty much says the state isn’t even offering a defense so
Defendants shall, by September 15, 2023, reposition, at Defendants’ expense, and in coordination with the United States Army Corps of Engineers, all buoys, anchors, and other related materials composing the floating barrier placed by Texas in the Rio Grande in the vicinity of Eagle Pass, Texas to the bank of the Rio Grande on the Texas side of the river
Who goes to jail? The governor? The State Senate? The head of Texas Border Patrol? AFAIK when it comes to agencies, there are no teeth - are there?
It’s the US v Abbott after all. Gov. Faubus was justifiably afraid that Pres. Eisenhower was going to have him locked up after not complying with a court order to desegregate the schools and caved before the 101st airborne arrived.
Don’t try to cross the dangerous border that warns you that it’s a dangerous border and you don’t have to worry about dying. Even without the buoys telling you that it’s dangerous people have drowned before.
Feel privileged you aren’t so desperate as to take such a risk.
They’re not stupid. Their other options are worse, or they wouldn’t come here. If drug cartels (largely funded by American consumers) came for your family, are you telling me me you wouldn’t go wherever you needed to to protect them?
Believe or not there are things worse than downing in the Rio Grande, which is why they try it anyway.
Don’t put up barriers that are designed for cruelty and murder because you are an ignorant, racist garbage dump of a Constitution violating governor and you don’t have to worry about going to federal prison.
They’re not designed for cruelty and murder they’re barriers in the water that’s it. If you have trouble swimming and you drown because you cannot get past the barrier in the water designed to keep you from getting past it, that’s your goddamn fault.
The blades between the buoys and netting underneath do in fact indicate that they’re designed for cruelty at the bare minimum. Also, the Rio Grande doesn’t just belong to Texas. It’s a federal border with another sovereign nation. Texas can’t just act cruel there unilaterally.
The "blades"between the bouys are no different than barbed wire, and the nets are obvious to allow marine life to move but keep people from easily swimming under. It’s designed as a barrier and so it includes basic barrier designs.
You know what? Let’s call this what it is. You being a trollish bigot.
If you called it what it is you would be calling it correct. There was no trolling or bigotry. Merely explaining reality.
Aah, the ol’ “It’s your fault someone is violating your fundamental rights, you dirty immigrant” response.
One does not wrap barrels in razor wire, install saw blades and nets designed to entangle unless one is intending to kill people. The governor here is violating literal Constitutional law and the fact that Biden didn’t just have him jailed pending trial is a fucking travesty.
They were not saw blades. They’re pointy disks that were intended to prevent people climbing through the low places, and nets designed to allow marine life through but not people are not “designed to entangle”. It was fit for purpose and that purpose was keeping people from illegally crossing the water border. And what fundamental rights? They basically threw their own lives away trying to do something expressly forbidden.
Texas has no authority here. Funny how you’re fine with that illegal act, but preserving life? Nah, fuck those people right?
But keep showing your bigotry. No one is fooled.
Still illegal to cross the border, dude.
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The destabilization of Mexico and Central and South America is our fault. It’s our moral responsibility to help these people flee the problems we created.
I wish a federal judge would order Texas removed from the union. LOL but the buoys are a nice touch.
Idk I feel like they should give them independence already. Cannot have Texas problemas if you don’t have Texas. And it will destroy itself in a couple of weeks at most this way.
“ Last month, two bodies were found near the barriers, with one stuck in the razor buoys. Their identities and cause of death are under investigation.”
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