• relay
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    10 months ago

    At the core, our delight at the stochastic suffering of an individual is a side effect of the weakness of our movement. This is petty individualism resulting from our lack of agency living in this collapsing capitalist world. The assailants would not be theives if we had a society that distributed wealth and opportunities to all. The soldier may also have well been a man willing to fight and kill fascists in another timeline because he would have lived in a socialist superstructure rather than a fascist superstructure. Yet we exist here.

    This timeline requires us of sound mind to see what we can do to build good structures worth dying for. Let the fascists kill themselves in their foolishness and let us not delight in it but seriously give 0 fucks about their well being. We seek to save people and when we are successful, we do. Fascists only seek to destroy others as a false solution to the problems of capitalism. Technically, nobody needs to die to build socialism, but those that refuse to give up their privlidge to create a more egalitarian society will often kill to protect their disgusting way of life. Those killers may need to be addressed in various manners, but we are not in the time in the war of movement. This now is the war of position.

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      10 months ago

      The assailants would not be theives if we had a society that distributed wealth and opportunities to all. The soldier may also have well been a man willing to fight and kill fascists in another timeline because he would have lived in a socialist superstructure rather than a fascist superstructure.

      If you want to abolish the death penalty except in cases where someone does a crime you consider to be really bad, you don’t want to abolish the death penalty.

      Similarly, if we talk a big game about how the ills of society influence individual crimes and reduce personal responsibility for those crimes, but then abandon that as soon as we’re faced with a really bad crime, our belief isn’t all that sincere to begin with.

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        10 months ago

        I’m not aware that a society with millions of people can exist where killing or the threat of violence is the last resort of not complying with that society’s norms. Resorting to violence or killing is generally understood to be the last desparate resort when more peaceful measures are not possible. Having a trial of a contained prisoner and executing said prisoner is the death penalty. Killing a fascist spree killer to save the lives of others is another matter entirely.

        When we are talking politics we must understand that society is influenced by material factors that lead to have people do particular actions. If those actions are common, we may suspect that they are systemic. If they are systemic it is best to change the factors in society that create those bad behaviors.

        If a friend or yourself falls victim to do these bad behaviors society creates, you can tell them to take responsibility for their life as a point of influence and hopefully they can get their shit together in a system that makes it difficult. Whenever fascists talk about “personal responsibility” it is refusing to address a systemic problem