Got here before all the libs completely swarmed it crying about ‘reverse racism’, that’s a first.
Let me throw out a few things for our federated people:
-You cannot be truly ‘racist’ to white people, as racism refers to prejudice in addition to the backing of socialized power structures at play.
-Calling someone an ‘anglo devil’ in the context of that person making a joke about all Russians being Nazis is perfectly justified.
-Reddit’s moderation team is headed by a ‘former’ CIA demon, and has been for years.
-Calling someone an ‘anglo devil’ in the context of that person making a joke about all Russians being Nazis is perfectly justified.
Calling the English “Anglo devils” is always justified. If they get offended, tell them it’s “banter” and they are socially obligated to accept it.
they can never handle the bantz
Oi mate its ok, I got me loisence for taking the piss, see?
“anglo devil” is also an apt description for the UK/US empire.
“You are promoting hate!” I yell in my US sponsored genocide factory
I find it mental that people can scream reverse racism, when its clear what is going on. But it is true that those arguing have a stake of their own, and are intentionally maliciously ignoring what this Anglo devil is saying about Russians.
I know the last one is true, but perhaps someone could link a source for our new friends. I remember there used to be a little debunking paragraph with links floating around here.
That is the OG Effortpost, someone posted (re-posted?) essentially all of that a few days ago.
When she was appointed to her position at Reddit, Jessica Ashooh never worked at a social media company before, had never held a senior position in a private sector company, and had spent the last 7 years working public sector jobs.
Her immediate past position, from March 2015 - May 2017, was as Deputy Director Middle East Strategy Task Force at the Atlantic Council and before that from June 2011 to February 2015 she was a Senior Analyst at the Policy Planning Department of the UAE Ministry of Foreign Affairs
As this internal CIA document made publically available by FOIA shows, The Atlantic Council, is a CIA front.
Totally normal things, someone who worked for a CIA front and the UAE Ministry of Foreign Affairs just becoming head of moderation at a massive social media site despite 0 relevant experience.
Oh also, bonus:
“I know what it’s like to live under censorship,” she said. “My internal check, when I’m arguing for a restrictive policy on the site, is Do I sound like an Arab government? If so, maybe I should scale it back.” On the other hand, she said, “people hide behind the notion that there’s a bright line between ideology and action, but some ideologies are inherently more violent than others.”
My internal check, when I’m arguing for a restrictive policy on the site, is Do I sound like an Arab government? If so, maybe I should scale it back.
Do I sound like an Arab government? If so, maybe I should scale it back.
momentThat’s the one.
So like, this is something that bothers me.
Why hide behind a more academic definition of “racism” when someone calls a white person an “Anglo devil” or something similar? I think it is pretty inarguably bigoted and dehumanizing along racial lines, y’know, the colloquial definition of racist?
White supremacy is a thing, absolutely, but why would we want to automatically side with the jerk insulting people based on their race?
Calling all Russians Nazis is obviously wrong, too, not siding with that person either. But why is a race-based insult somehow “justified”? Can’t they both just be being shitty?
I don’t give a shit about civility politics, but this attitude is just weird to me. Bringing systemic level critique (which is valid don’t get it twisted) to justify one side of a small interpersonal scuffle is bonkers.
If you zoom in to the specific one-on-one interaction then yes a white person being called an Anglo Devil or cracka is having their feelings hurt along racial lines.
However, why should we disregard all the context and background of a global system of white supremacy that keeps the vast majority of POC peoples poor, subservient, and voiceless? Why focus on a white individual being made to feel momentarily uncomfortable when the system of white supremacy perpetrated by white people does not give POC the option of being treated as individuals with feelings and needs?
If a Polish person in occupied Warsaw tells a German on the street to “fuck off to Germany, you Nazi”, the possibility of that German not being a Nazi and having their feelings hurt is completely inconsequential to whatever the Pole is going through.
I was not ‘hiding behind a more academic definition of “racism”’, I was noting that ‘reverse racism’ is not real. Yes, white people can experience racial prejudice, but that is worlds apart from racism as one has all the social, legal, and overall systemic backing of generations of hatred, and the other is someone being called a ‘bleach demon’ online.
Distinctions like that matter.
RuSSian = ok
Anglo devil = not ok
Russians probably have more right to be upset about this given their historical battle against nazism and the losses they suffered for it.
poor wittle marginalized and vulnerable oppressed anglos
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Fuck off
Genuine question. Does general consensus not differentiate between systemic and “normal” racism.
Because surely you don’t mean this comment right?
Systemic racism is normal racism, it is the racism that is the most normalized. The other racism you are talking about is personal prejudice.
No idea how sincere they are being. Some Maoist Standard English types get high on their own supply sometimes and it’s not worth stressing over imo
Look up the upbears and realize where you are lol.
Genocide is bad actually.
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Just an fyi for people coming here from outside of hexbear:
Racism against white people is not real
Anglos have been devils for the rest of the world for centuries
US has been the great satan since it’s conception
“White” as a concept changes every five years based on the needs of the global imperialism
There is no white culture
@ me if you have any questions
I’ve said for many years that most of history outside of regional squabbles can be boiled down to “Watch out for those white people over there”
♫ “Don’ trust them new crackas, over therrrrrrrrrrrrrre~” ♪
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Reddit moderation is unironically much further right than Twitter. Musk is extremely open about his fascist sympathies and disdain for moderation, but I can still regularly get tweets removed for being transphobic. The same cannot be said for
ANOTHER CRAKKKA DOWN UNLIMITED GENOCIDE ON THE FIRST WORLD
Adding here that in some Marxist analysis, racism is a form of classism, eg races are kept from moving into other classes via invented prejudices which divide the proles from focusing on the bourgeoisie. That is, racism is economic and power centred not aesthetic. So, when we say white people can’t experience racism, we mean that they are not kept from advancing in society/class because of their race, whereas non-white people are. This is a societal analysis, not an individual one which is the focus of a liberal definition.
Note also that the definition of “white” is fluid dependent on capital’s needs and demands.
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People just upvote without even looking at this dumb shit you’ve posted.
I upvoted i because i approve of bullying crackers.
oh no, we’re upvoting because we agree with the post after reading it.
It’s a little BMF
Do we actually like Russia here? I came because I’m a lefty with a healthy suspicion of America’s depiction of China, but Russia has really dug their own grave at this point.
Russia is bad, but nato is worse, in the same way that a grenade tossed into a school building is bad, and throwing many grenades into many school buildings is worse
Russia sucks and is bad, but the war in Ukraine is the fault of NATO and the west, and is only the most recent atrocity inflicted upon the world for the gain of the United States/ Europe
Perfectly articulated. It drives me nuts how unintelligent and hollow headed western libs and righties are on this.
I think the consensus is more anti-NATO than specifically pro-Russia.
NATO is an anti communist pact that basically destroyed the Soviet project and our last hope for humanity. Anyone opposing NATO or NATO aligned countries is good by default.
Disagree, it’s more of a rule of thumb than a hard and fast rule:
For an extreme example, obliterating the earth into dust is anti-nato, but definitely not good
Not good - Anti-lgbtq countries shouldn’t be considered “good”, but that’s what critical support is for.
I think a more up-to-date description would be that NATO is an anti-Russia organization. Russia hasn’t been communist since the 90s and NATO is still diametrically opposed to Russia specifically.
edit: changed ‘correct’ to ‘up-to-date’ to better reflect the sentiment
This comment is old by now but I wanted to add to what others said, that what we’re doing isn’t something new, it’s close to what’s known as Revolutionary Defeatism. We believe that in the context of capitalist imperialist hegemony the working class has in its interest to spoil any imperialist project. NATO is part of that hegemonic order, and its unipolar domination of the world is something that harms the whole global working class. Therefore, when us leftists in the imperial core are called to follow in line and support imperialism because we’re doing it different this time, we need to recognize that the principled position is to oppose the war despite of the accusations thrown at Russia. It’s not like the world is in danger of Russia becoming a hegemonic super power the way the US is, instead the threat is of Russia offering a competing alternative to developing countries as a trade partner, which is good for everyone.
Triggered, cumskin?
Nooo you must be nice to the huwites nooo
Why? Fuck white people.
Okay nazis, have fun. block community
CoMmUniStS aRe NaZiS
OK Anglo supremacist, now shoo away, go to Reddit
Amazing, all of you have assumed my race. Why? Because I’m not repeating after you troglodytes like a good minion? If I had said all the magic words would you assume I’m a different race? You kids should stay in school and get off your mom’s tablets for a bit. Your brains are fucked.
Amazing, all of you have assumed my race.
and you just confirmed it by saying this painfully
shit lmaoJust go back to
assholeNot even joking here: isn’t that literally more in line with your beliefs??? My impression right now is that you guys would fit in there perfectly. This feels like a Nazi saying to me, “go back to your buddy, Hitler”.
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Let’s not forget, these mayo demons are your fault Yakub.
Bro does your mom know you took this picture of her?
Man, you’ve got the shittiest comebacks… You shouldn’t go back to
you should just 
Gottem
Good thing facts don’t care about your feelings then
Yes.
You said you were going to block this community lol.
Unfortunately blocking a community doesn’t block the degens. I’m not nearly invested enough to individually block you guys.
doesn’t block the removed.
Lmao every time. Who’s the Nazi here?
It’s definitely you guys with the collection of far right extremist propaganda and talking points.
Far right extremist talking points such as, ummm… you know.
Far right talking points like checks notes I think it would be better for the world if the us wasn’t capable of coupling every country that doesn’t toe the line, and while you can hurt an individual white persons feelings along racial lines, the absence of systemic oppression makes reverse racism impossible.
Or are you talking about the clearly obvious jokes like “yakubian devil”? It’s pretty obviously a joke, no one here actually believes in phrenology. You might want to go back to Reddit where you can comfort yourself with humour being limited to the same 9 shitty puns
It’s funny because you mindlessly repeat the propaganda of your home country that you’re served without any dissenting voices and then you go online where people from other countries are and act like they’re the ones mindlessly repeating things.
Just like how if anyone opposes your side with the literal swastika tattooed nazis in control of the government, you call them nazis.
Where?
NATO is a nazi institution full of Nazis working to implement fascism globally and China is our greatest hope for a better world tomorrow. Critical support to Russia as it battles NATO and weakens it’s imperial grip
You actually legitimately believe that or you just like being edgy and a contrarian to reality? I get that you’re all junior 4channers, but you’ll get through this phase, hopefully.
I was once like you. Then I learned to not uncritically consume state department propaganda. Hopefully you will one day too learn to be critical of the sources you make use of to gather information.
White isn’t a race
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They didn’t assume your race, lol, you’re making that up out of nothing. They just called you out for parroting Anglo-supremacist/Nazi nonsense
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Being white is the one thing they desperately wish for and the one thing they’ll never be allowed to have.
Whiteness is also an imaginary concept and a figment of the racist imagination, of course, but that doesn’t make it any less real, or deadly; whiteness is a thing because people insist that it is, and use force and violence to make it so. Whiteness is a thing because white supremacists needed a name for their violent subjugation of others, and so they gave it one. In this way, whiteness is a uniquely virulent and pathological form of social identity. It cannot survive its loss of supremacy; it cannot abide competition or mixture or “impurity.” Created by racial slavery and given a second wind by European imperialism, whiteness depends on the violent subordination of all others. Celebrate your Irish heritage if you must, or your Pennsylvania Dutch grandparents; that has nothing to do with the whiteness that names me, now, but which (partially) excluded my Irish and German ancestors when they came to this nation. Irish and Pennsylvania Dutch can and will survive incorporation into a multi-ethnic nation, but it is the sine qua non of whiteness that it cannot and will not. Inextricable from racial subordination, whiteness has no other content at all: whiteness is what’s left in the melting pot after everything else has been burned away. Without that xenophobic fire, it has no meaning, no substance, no fundamental.
This is why “white genocide” actually does have a meaning beyond “racial integration.” If you take away a white person’s ability to live as the undisputed master of the universe—to take his own experience as normal and privileged, and to presume all others to be debased copies of his own primary existence—then you take away his whiteness.
from Buffalo Skulls
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“Jokes on you because I’m too lazy and stupid to read” boy you really showed us, huh?
“i can’t argue my own point” is a more concise way to phrase that
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Neat.
You should google it.
What? One if the core facets of fascism is anticommunism. What are you even taking about Nazis?
Looks at proof supporting a claim “what a bunch of Nazis”.
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Nah, effort would just be wasted on you, so I just didn’t bother
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I thought you blocked us?
how will we deal without your dumbass lib insights like “the us might’ve done bad in the past, but this time were definitely the good guys” or takes on the holodomor or Uyghurs.It’s so wild how not one of you has a single thing to say about my positions that I’ve actually said anything about. Fuck the US.
Why would we? You’ve made it pretty clear you do not wish to engage in a good-faith discussion. There’s several users that have attempted to engage with you in such a way, yet you chose not to interact with them. You get what you give.
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walls of spam text,
yeah i’m illiterate too
To be fair, I did hit them with the reverse Tianamen copypasta lmao
No it would be the ones I linked you to, which you so far have still failed to interact with. You are truly a brickheaded unimaginative dogfaced ponysoldier.
Why won’t anyone discuss with me?
No, not like that!
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It’s so wild how not one of you has a single thing to say about my positions
Sorry, I guess I misunderstood the part of your post where you were asking for replies
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