3:06-3:07 for HK

2:57-2:58, 3:10-3:11 for Euromaiden

  • Bobby_DROP_TABLES [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Really sick of seeing people call the HK protests a psyop. Any self-proclaimed leftist needs to support the people of Hong Kong’s struggle to have the freedom to murder their pregnant wives and then flee to Thailand without being extradited.

    • TheGamingLuddite [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Such an absurd non-issue. China should have just sent in the PLA in to black bag that little cretin. The US can extradite people from fucking Romania, if China ever collapses it will be because it respected the rules too much.

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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Poon_Hiu-wing

        Woman from Hong Kong is murdered by her boyfriend while they are in Taiwan, and her murderer flees back to Hong Kong. Authorities in Hong Kong don’t have jurisdiction to charge him for the murder. They also didn’t have an extradition treaty with Taiwan, nor to the mainland (he is from Shenzhen). So Hong Kong proposed a law that would allow them to extradite the murderer. This was cited as the main complaint of the protesters.

        The law never passed. HK did have jurisdiction to get him for stealing some of the victim’s money and stuff, but he walked free like a year after murdering her.

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          Redditor’s thought process: “what if I murder my pregnant wife and China tries to arrest me? Egads, I must support this man!”

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          I vaguely remember this. Was the proposed law limited to in-person serious crimes like murder, or was it overly broad?

          I can’t imagine that many of the protesters were against prosecuting a murderer, but there are laws, and then there are laws.

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    “Revolution of Dignity” is such an incredibly jingoistic phrase. I can’t decide if it came out of some neolib focus group or just a room full of fascists.

    same-picture

    e: found some research about this, it was literally the nazi party of Ukraine that popularized the phrase

    https://hexbear.net/post/411806

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    It’s funny how they throw in part of the tank man clip where you can see the tank turning away from the guy.

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      They cut it right after it started moving to imply that it was about to run him over and that they cut it out. One of those, “point them in the direction and let them fill in the blanks” kinda deals.

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            Turns out, a person can fit under a tank and not get crushed unless they decide to throw themselves at the tracks.

            Interesting, innit?

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            Well I could be wrong, in which case I’m really putting the shit in shitposting, but it felt kind of sus-soviet to call attention to how big of an object a T-54’s hull could roll over, in the context of a US army recruitment video featuring the Tiananmen Square Tank Man video. Now, a tank rolls over stuff with its treads, so the ground clearance doesn’t necessarily imply anything about allegedly grinding student protestors into the pavement, but in this context I’m not sure what else it’s supposed to imply. Maybe they should clarify.

            Edit: Ah, ok, I read their other comment. Guess they’re not fedposting…?

      • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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        Germany is a pretty shit comparison bc they had a small empire but had massive imperial ambitions. amerika already has the massive empire. with amerika failing, international capital is panicking as it doesnt really have a viable candidate to pass the imperial torch to. this will probably result in western countries either going full fash w maximal internal oppression and colonial violence or begging to join BRICS, which in this case will have to turn into a military alliance, possibly losing India

        i really hope amerika keeps being aggressive toward Russia bc if Russia aligns with the west WW3 will be much more horrific

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    This whole video is gibberish. It feels like a high budget version of one of those 4chan-inspired Anonymous V-for-Vendetta hype videos. I wonder how much money someone paid to get Sun Tzu quotes letterboxed over stock film real?

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    “Are we the baddies?”

    Somebody up there got frustrated with too many new recruits drinking their own kool-aid and wanted to make sure people know what they’re signing up for lol.

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    lmao, the beginning sound is noted CIA spook GW Bush telling Gorby to tear down the Berlin Wall… like… Okay so they are admitting that that was a CIA project? Does that mean we can dispense with the idea that the eastern bloc fell on its own accord?

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    This is really shit lol.

    So what, they take credit for a bunch of events we already know they were involved in. The actual ad is ultimately just bait of a variety of different things to drive social media discussion. The clown makeup, the cartoon that probably has some racist element and turning into a spook, it’s all just bait to drive social media discussion and spread the ad.

    There’s less of them than us. They’re just a bunch of dweebs on laptops and discord, 8 hours a day with an hour for lunch. Just like this ukro psyops group war room.

    The only thing I will give them is that they’re more organised than we are when it comes to deploying themselves online. We have no fulltime revolutionaries performing online work, the only ones getting that money to do that work are doing it offline. What we have is a bunch of nerds doing whatever, whenever they feel like it, online, with motivation being a massively crucial factor in the quantity of what gets done and what doesn’t. But we continue to get stronger at it.

  • RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Wait, there are major powers who are attempting to secretly influence world events and set narratives…

    And they aren’t transgender or Jewish!?

    (Also, like a ton of shit they do is on an easily accessible public record)

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    There’s a sinophobic federated liberal that’s chanting “bot” to anyone he’s arguing with, right now, on a different thread regarding Chinese current events. He’s been doing that for over a day so far.

    I assume he’d see any such psyops as “patriots getting shit done” or however his treats would frame it, while dissent is only from “bots.”

    Either he’s an extraordinary liar and can’t even maintain the lie long enough to stop arguing with “bots” or he has a definition of “bot” that he conjured from his own solipsism that is independent of what the rest of us would use.

    Also judging by his avatar picture, he’s a weeb because of course he is. pathetic