• roastpotatothief@lemmy.ml
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      A lot of people piggyback on popular movements to gain power.

      I never read any of his writings but I’m guessing Hitler never really believed the socialist stuff. It was just a rhetorical tool to let him connect with his audience.

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        Idk what he believed in man, but he for sure started off with socialist ideas for the Volk. He loved mass movements, we might call him the founder of populist propaganda but it would be a disservice to other dictators. Trying to pretend that part of history didn’t happen is misleading and anti-democratic ya know…

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          I don’t think people totally flip their ideals half way through their careers. If you think of other evil authoritarian supremacist people, Margaret Thatcher, ian paisley, etc (though all had very different personalities in other ways) they dissent start off altruistic or considerate or tolerant. People tend to keep the same ideas the while way through their lives.

          Works be interesting to hear if Hitler was different.

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      You cant mix fascism (rule of the bourgeosie) with socialism (rule of the proletariat).

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          Both terms have very clear, mutually exclusive definitions. How would a “mix” of those look like? Dont tell me something generic like “its totarialism bro”.

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      No. Surprisingly good snopes article below about how the fascist movements in Italy and Germany united with private enterprise and big capitalists of those countries, to crush worker unions and socialist movements.

      There’s also a very good chapter in Zak Cope - Divided world divided class about how german capitalists like Krupp and AG Farben were the nazis biggest contributers. It was a movement of the haute and petit bourgeoisie to crush the threat of organized labor.

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        Lol the big man quoting mighty Snopes and Zak Cope on me. I don’t even know who tf that is but what I do know is that all the 10 people who downvoted me are dumbasses who slept during history class. Mussolini spent the majority of his years writing in socialist journals and leading socialist groups, until he got in too many controversies and was thrown out of those groups. He then went right wing exclusively for money problems. Hitler has a similar story, and this applies to other fascist dictators as well. Y’all looking mighty dumdum imo