• AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.mlM
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    This is what the US is hounding China to do because they’re absolutely convinced that COVID-19 was created in a lab despite no real evidence (and a full WHO audit in China finding nothing). So they wouldn’t be so hypocritical as to refuse to do it themselves right?

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      Even bigger issue is the fact that US routinely engages in chemical and biological warfare on top of being the only country that has used nuclear weapons not only in Japan (twice), but also in Iraq in the form of depleted uranium rounds.

      If there is one country in the world that cannot be trusted to have these kinds of facilities it’s the US. I really hope this chicanery comes to an end before something horrible comes out of these labs.

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        Really? Not the one that poisons dissidents, journalists, and defectors? Because that’s Russia. That’s the one country in the world that definitely can’t be trusted.

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          Poisoning dissidents is not biological or chemical warfare. For context, US dropped disease ridden insects and fowl feathers during their war on Korea. Am example of chemical warfare is their use of Agent Orange in Vietnam to hurt their agriculture which has ended up poisoning their water supply to this day.

          No one is asking you to trust Russia. But Russia doesn’t have 300+ labs over the world inventing novel ways to kill for them.

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            I’m uneasy on American expenditures on biological weapons, to be sure. Even if they’re researching how to counter them, the doomsday scenario is the accidental release of an airborne pathogen. The risk has never made sense to me.

            But two points:

            1. The Russians and Assad did use chemical weapons against civilians in Syria. Done simply to mop up rebel cities at the cheapest cost.
            2. Putin poisoned his targets in the most dramatic ways possible: with radioactive isotopes and nerve agents that only governments can produce. He killed them with weapons of mass destruction just to make a point. He went to far to do it on foreign soil!
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                The poisoning of dissidents was done with biological and nuclear weapons to underscore the point that Putin has them and is willing to use them flagrantly.

                Also that Russia has recently used chemical weapons against civilians. If China was actually worried about this subject (and not deflecting from Covid scrutiny), they’d be watching Russia’s actions in Ukraine very closely. Attacking nuclear reactors and now talking up chemical weapons indicates Russia is aiming for a false flag pretext where they blame Ukraine for Russia’s misdeeds. Like accusing Ukraine of shelling their own refuges, when artillery is Russia’s core strength.

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                  Of course your governments authoritarian media told you syria had chemical weapons, how else could they justify dropping thousands of bombs on syria, and justify western military intervention / more coups in the middle east?

                  Did you read the wikileaks document?

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                    Unfortunately, Wikileaks was suborned by the FSB around 2016. I don’t know what they had on Assange, but he completely stopped posting anything critical of Russia and their authoritarian media. Before that, it would credibly criticize anyone, but afterwards it became very, very suspicious.

                    Anyways, there’s too much evidence outside of western media of chemical attacks in Syria. The main justification for western strikes in Syria was hunting ISIS. Assad and Putin’s war crimes were a side note to the west. Which is why there was no regime change, in the end.