Under capitalism life is a Russian roulette and having a kid is just throwing dice on wether they will have a good life or not, and you need to take jobs that you don’t want to do when times are tough and are always tired from work and coming back home to have to take care of them. Sounds like a nightmare. The worst part is the uncertainty of “will my family survive if I get laid off”, not worth it.


You manage when you have them. I personally refuse to let children be a class privilege.
doesn’t seem fair to the kid, but growing up rich is abuse too.
You got it. There’s no perfect scenario where you can have kids. Taking a step back, most of humanity has been raised in conditions infinitely worse than what I can offer my own children. While I may struggle as my parents did before me, I grew up well-adjusted and well-educated, even if not always happy or content. Why deny myself children based on the same conditions that created me?
i certainly wouldn’t want to be born now. i think you’re underestimating how bad climate change will be.
why should your child live a life of suffering just to gratify you?
Raising revolutionary children is a revolutionary act.
I’m pretty sure my kids generation isn’t going to see the worst of it. Everything’s hopeless on that front if we don’t raise a better next generation, anyway.
Children are gratifying but infamously hard & life altering. No one’s doing it for kicks & because it’s a fun time. If my kid is suffering it’d be news to me; if I find that I’m unable to control the suffering they experience as an adult, that’s just the universal parental experience. You do your best and prepare them for the world they live in.