I mean, on its own I hate my sleep, cause I have chronic nightmares, I thrash about and make a mess, and my thanatophobia is obviously triggered by it.
But also just the concept in general kinda bugs me. At least for the long amount of time it takes. It’s at least 6 hours of sleep every day. And I could really use those 6 hours. Maybe I’d fill to fit it like a fish moced to a larger fish tank, but in any case if I could simply relax for that time and then use the other 18 hours of the day to be productive, id love that. But I unfortunately can’t combine recreation and sleep at the same time. And it’s just…ugh. I don’t know.
Overall I just really wish I could go without something. I wish I could forgo the need for recreation, or the need to sleep, or the need to work, or the need to study marxism [by learning much much easier, not giving up], or my enjoyment for hobbies. I’m not necessarily stretched thin. More just…idk. Marat would work 21 hours a day on his work Chains of Slavery, but the coffee intake nearly killed him, so idk. Also i have anxiety over coffee [i dont like that it messes with my head. Also when people have too much it seems to null its effectiveness] but i know that would help with my problem.


This is solid advice. I’m trying to limit blue light before sleeping, but even if I fall asleep, I wake up and after a nap, sleep eludes me until time to wake up, so I usually end up listening to something or reading, which probably isn’t great either.
Thanks, what you are doing is the generally right approach - if one can’t sleep within 15-30 min then do something that’s not overstimulating such as reading fiction (book or e-reader not tablet/phone) away from the bed for 20 min or so and then try to sleep again. But it takes a lot of practice; the aim is to sleep within 5 min but those with chronic insomnia even getting to sleep within 15-30 min is a win. Sleep hygiene itself can be relatively complex as the routine has to be tailored to the individual through trials and practice, and often needs to be paired up with sleep or anxiety CBT/DBT. (Stress/anxiety/sleep apnoea/menopausal symptoms etc can all contribute to insomnia).
https://www.nhsinform.scot/mind-to-mind/sleeping-better/how-to-fall-asleep-faster/
Often insomnia and anxiety has to be considered as areas where our “skills” need to be developed rather than immutable characteristics of the personal human condition (ie dialectical rather than essentialist approaches)
Even searching things like “how to sleep within 2 min” and treating it like a skill to learn over months of daily practice can go a long way.
I’m not generally anxious, but definitely occasionally situationally. The encrapified phone messing with my income is aggravating but hey, free patience workout I guess.
I would be interested in any dbt material you can link. Someone I know can use it and maybe when the phone is acting up until I get one, I can too. I used to have resources but I lost them. 😅
Cheers!
DBT:
https://morethantherapy.org/assets/files/The-DBTTherapySkillsWorkbook.pdf
CBT:
https://www.hpft.nhs.uk/media/1655/wellbeing-team-cbt-workshop-booklet-2016.pdf
Thank you!
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