Mainly because a lot of the problems these guys are talking about just not materilaizing within the franchise have existed since like 2012.
Too many quips? Avengers 1, Dark World and Age of Ultron were infamous for this.
Every new movie is a sequel hook? Iron Man 2 was a 3 hour trailer for the Avengers, and this series popularized post credits scenes
Bad Special Effects? Phase 1 films looked like they were cooked up in about a week because their sets were so cheap.
Bad writing/Too much bait and switch? Remember how mad fans got over Iron Man 3 with the Mandarin twist?
I think all this discourse is less about Marvel “not being good anymore” and more about people starting to unconsciously realize that mindless corporate shlock isn’t actually that gripping once you start holding it under the microscope. Like this series has been going for 16 years and hasn’t actually changed, of course you’re sick of it.
I liked cpt. america (WW2 and nazis getting f*d), Dr. Strange (visual effects and kinda new feeling), Guardians of the Galaxy (flashy space thing) and Infinity war (thanos wins, marveloids cope, thanos did nothing wrong except being a Terracentric who should have instaurated communism).
All other films of “omg, infighting among my heroes to create drama, and stereotypical hero film for my white heroes”… Yeah, couldnt care less.
Give me communist superman, or captain USSR, father of Black Widow.
I haven’t seen the earlier ones, but I liked Thor ragnarok and guardians of the galaxy mostly for the soundtrack, and I don’t think they’ve aged too poorly (besides Chris Pratt sucking). I also liked Black Panther when I was like 10, and it’s kinda cringe now, haven’t seen the sequel yet tho (i don’t plan to).
agree. I like funky films, that i’ve learnt over the years.