I looked at the page about the lynching catch-phrase and it’s also called “whataboutism”
Truly the most stupid term ever invented, it’s literally just refusing to level the play field so whenever someone summons whataboutism there can be no debate anymore
It’s declared a logical fallacy when in fact, invoking the “whataboutism logical fallacy” in debate is ITSELF an implicit combination of multiple logical fallacies. Kafkaesque doesn’t begin to describe it.
Exactly, I’d even say that one of the most important rule of a debate is that if you are proven to be hypocritical you lose. But whataboutism is making look like proving the opponent hypocrisy is actually the fallacy. So basically if both sides respect whataboutism they can both be hypocritical and accuse each other of absolutely anything
Whataboutism is just debate. When you don’t want debate it’s a fallacy. We can’t have people making points or bringing context to a conversation because that would threaten the monopoly the Ukrainian state has for moral concern.
It is so irresponsible how this war is portrayed, but that is the point. It’s just disappointing how many intelligent people are caught up in this. Many are in deep. I have a Russian friend that gives valuable insights from their family in Russia and is able to properly translate things. It is mind blowing the difference in narrative. US inoculations against the truth are widely effective and the population is eager to accept them.
I looked at the page about the lynching catch-phrase and it’s also called “whataboutism”
Truly the most stupid term ever invented, it’s literally just refusing to level the play field so whenever someone summons whataboutism there can be no debate anymore
The idea of “whataboutism” is beyond infuriating.
It’s declared a logical fallacy when in fact, invoking the “whataboutism logical fallacy” in debate is ITSELF an implicit combination of multiple logical fallacies. Kafkaesque doesn’t begin to describe it.
Exactly, I’d even say that one of the most important rule of a debate is that if you are proven to be hypocritical you lose. But whataboutism is making look like proving the opponent hypocrisy is actually the fallacy. So basically if both sides respect whataboutism they can both be hypocritical and accuse each other of absolutely anything
Whataboutism is just debate. When you don’t want debate it’s a fallacy. We can’t have people making points or bringing context to a conversation because that would threaten the monopoly the Ukrainian state has for moral concern.
It is so irresponsible how this war is portrayed, but that is the point. It’s just disappointing how many intelligent people are caught up in this. Many are in deep. I have a Russian friend that gives valuable insights from their family in Russia and is able to properly translate things. It is mind blowing the difference in narrative. US inoculations against the truth are widely effective and the population is eager to accept them.