Kind of having a difficult time understanding/finding sources on it. Humanism seems pretty cool at first glance, though I haven’t read much so I can’t be sure.

What do you guys know and think about it?

  • QueerCommie
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    91 year ago

    At first glance it seems that humanism may be compatible, as Marxism wants the best for humanity (communism), but also it doesn’t seem to be compatible with historical idealism as the philosophy of it is very idealist and individualistic. Happy cake day btw, it seems it is around the anniversary of the Genzedong being purged from Reddit.

    • @TeezyZeezyOP
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      71 year ago

      Yeah, that’s why I was wondering, it sounded pretty cool and like our cup of tea.

      Can you elaborate on why it’s idealist/individualist? If you don’t have time I understand lol educating people can be exhausting

      Thanks! I made an account right before it was purged. I miss GenZedong, but I’ve really had a nice cozy community experience on here and much nicer/more understanding that I’m still learning than redditors often were lol

      • QueerCommie
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        According to Wikipedia: “Humanism is a philosophical stance that emphasizes the individual and social potential, and agency of human beings, whom it considers the starting point for serious moral and philosophical inquiry. The meaning of the term “humanism” has changed according to successive intellectual movements that have identified with it.” My understanding is that humanism arose with the enlightenment which was the movement post ‘Black Death’ to stop accepting religious explanations of the world as default and start using science and reason. This gave rise to multiple ideologies and sects of philosophical thought, primarily liberalism, but also Marx could be included at the later end of the enlightenment. There are multiple definitions of humanism and the main two I know are basically part of early liberalism, and just anyone who wants the best for humanity. The latter being from some liberal book I read a while back that was claiming “liberalism says the rights of people as individuals should be pursued for humanity, communism says everyone’s literally equal and should be treated as such for the good of humanity, and fascism says the Aryan race should be defended from all the inferior ones for the best of humanity” def anti-communist, but still a definite you could accept. However, I would say we don’t need to associate with humanism as Marxism is enlightenment on its own and we do not necessarily think humans’ interests should be prioritized at the risk of harming the “lower animals” for socialism also means protecting the biosphere. The last person I heard explicit associate with humanism was a larouchite, so that’s also partially why I’m suspicious. TLDR: I don’t have a strong position against associating with Humanism, but I don’t see the benefit of doing such. Although, as Marxists it might be useful to study other enlightenment thinkers. Nvm on the idealist thing, I can’t find much evidence so.

        • @TeezyZeezyOP
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          41 year ago

          Thanks again for a brilliant response. Really appreciate it.

          Yeah, I’m not going to go around calling myself a humanist or anything but it just seemed compatible at first glance and I swear I saw a label somewhere that said “Marxist-Humanist” but.

          Another comrade found some evidence on why it is idealistic, so no worries :) Thanks again comrade