• @Nevar@lemmy.ml
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    13 years ago

    Again, I think this is Hanlon’s Razor (never attribute malice to what can be adequately explained by stupidity.)

    You may be right in your assessment but it’s unrealistic to me that AOC is being malicious in her goals or that she belongs to a group that identify as social fascists. I’m sure if you had a one on one coffee and genuine conversation with her she would come off as a useful idiot who believes in what she says rather than someone whose goal was to trick the left in the USA.

    The left in the US will never achieve power if they think potential allies are enemies rather than idiots. Thinking your enemy is smarter than they actually are is often why we become confrontational.

    • Muad'DibberA
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      63 years ago

      I def recommend reading over this list to see why AOC is just an opportunist sheepdog for the democrats. The ultimate issue is that the US is a capitalist dictatorship, and anyone trying to “change the system from within” will end up in a collaborationist role.

      You can’t convince the rich to vote away their wealth, and you can’t undo bourgeois democracy using bourgeois democracy. Any frank study of US history reveals this process play out hundreds of times in a row, and DSA relies on historical ignorance of that history in order to win people over to the controlled opposition.

      • loathesome dongeater
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        33 years ago

        Any frank study of US history reveals this process play out hundreds of times in a row, and DSA relies on historical

        There should be a book about this. Not just for USA but for all over the world. I see a lot of hubris and “end of history” mindset from people my age while major events happening right now usually have something similar that has happened before from which we can learn. But try watching mainstream news instead and it feels every problem is happening for the first time in history.

        • Muad'DibberA
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          33 years ago

          My two fav US history books that highlight this process the most, are Settlers, and a people’s history of the US. Of course socdems / demsocs betraying workers is a thing that’s played out in every single country in the past 100 years, but I’ve only read articles, posts, and sections of books that show this for other countries. The most recent one I read was about “euro-communists”, and the soft-left “socialist” parties in western Europe. JFC Fuck those guys.

          But ya I’d be interested in Marxist histories of other countries which would unavoidably highlight this process.

    • loathesome dongeater
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      43 years ago

      what can be adequately explained by stupidity

      I don’t see any stupidity here. (Unless it’s me being stupid.) She has some goals as a career politician and she is working towards achieving it.