It becomes a game of who can destroy all of their opponents missiles and still have enough of their own left to do genocide. The US would make more missiles to make sure that after their first strike, they not only would have enough to stop any feeble retaliation, but also to continue on with what they actually want to do which is wipe out the opponents population. In order to prevent them from doing this the USSR had to then increase their own stock with missiles that were good enough to threaten the US missiles. So the US would then build more and better missiles to overwhelm the soviet’s missiles again. Like yellow Parenti said, it’s not an arms race,it’s one side trying to catch up so they don’t get wiped out while the other side increases their stock in order to be able to wipe them out.
So it may only take X number of missiles to kill the enemy but it takes Y number of missiles to ensure the opponents missiles don’t hit you then it becomes and equation of X - Y missiles to kill the enemy and not yourself. So every time the soviet’s increased their own stock, Y goes up, so X has to go up to compensate. At least this is how I understand it
You also have to consider the other points Parenti makes. Every time the US escalated and the USSR had to play catch up, it was a burn on valuable resources for the USSR. They employed everything they could think of to burn down the USSR, both militarily and economically. Making more, bigger, better nukes, had the bonus of doing both I would imagine. Not to mention you are bringing the logic, of caring about life in general, to an equation that involves the US oligarchy. These are people that only have one thing in sight, absolute domination and ownership. I have no doubt a decent number of them had/have the mindset of “if I can’t have it no one will.” In addition, I’m sure some private military contractors were making a lot of money off all the construction that goes into making nukes, bases, submarines, etc.
So make more bombs, spend more money for our military contractors, build more bunkers and submarines. Force our targets to have to burn more of their own resources. This is what I imagine their thoughts processes were back then. Idk about now. I haven’t kept up with what we have been doing with the nuclear stock pile as of recent.
We can argue about why make so many and that it doesn’t make sense but none of that really matters because they did it. I’m just trying to give a hypothesis of what the reasons may be.
I do think that the cold war was primarily an economic war of attrition. US bloc was ahead from the start because US was profiteering from WW2 and building out its industry while the rest of the world burned. USSR was forced into a defensive position from the very start. That said, USSR leadership lacked imagination and courage in post Stalin era. They basically tried to compete with the west using western metrics like GDP.
I’m sure at some level (setting aside the obvious desire to funnel public money into the MIC) there’s planning for how future technology might make parts of the nuclear arsenal obsolete, and redundancy built in to compensate.
Missile interception is incredibly difficult now, but in 10-20 years? Submarines are undetectable now, but in 10-20 years (see the recent post about China developing new sub detection tech)? At least through the very limited lens of nuclear planning it makes some sense to give yourself different options to be flexible in the event one part of your strategy can be effectively countered at some point.
For sure, there are also new developments happening with stuff like Burevestnik, which effectively gives missiles unlimited range. A lot of the missile defence is predicated on the idea that missiles are going to come on a particular trajectory, and Burevestnik negates that assumption. Hypersonics is another example of missiles that aren’t possible to intercept currently.
It becomes a game of who can destroy all of their opponents missiles and still have enough of their own left to do genocide. The US would make more missiles to make sure that after their first strike, they not only would have enough to stop any feeble retaliation, but also to continue on with what they actually want to do which is wipe out the opponents population. In order to prevent them from doing this the USSR had to then increase their own stock with missiles that were good enough to threaten the US missiles. So the US would then build more and better missiles to overwhelm the soviet’s missiles again. Like yellow Parenti said, it’s not an arms race,it’s one side trying to catch up so they don’t get wiped out while the other side increases their stock in order to be able to wipe them out.
So it may only take X number of missiles to kill the enemy but it takes Y number of missiles to ensure the opponents missiles don’t hit you then it becomes and equation of X - Y missiles to kill the enemy and not yourself. So every time the soviet’s increased their own stock, Y goes up, so X has to go up to compensate. At least this is how I understand it
But realistically speaking, interception of missiles is incredibly difficult, and once you get enough nukes it doesn’t even matter whether they hit the target or not. It turns out even a small nuclear exchange could have catastrophic consequences https://www.wired.com/story/even-a-small-nuclear-war-could-trigger-a-global-apocalypse/
You also have to consider the other points Parenti makes. Every time the US escalated and the USSR had to play catch up, it was a burn on valuable resources for the USSR. They employed everything they could think of to burn down the USSR, both militarily and economically. Making more, bigger, better nukes, had the bonus of doing both I would imagine. Not to mention you are bringing the logic, of caring about life in general, to an equation that involves the US oligarchy. These are people that only have one thing in sight, absolute domination and ownership. I have no doubt a decent number of them had/have the mindset of “if I can’t have it no one will.” In addition, I’m sure some private military contractors were making a lot of money off all the construction that goes into making nukes, bases, submarines, etc.
So make more bombs, spend more money for our military contractors, build more bunkers and submarines. Force our targets to have to burn more of their own resources. This is what I imagine their thoughts processes were back then. Idk about now. I haven’t kept up with what we have been doing with the nuclear stock pile as of recent.
We can argue about why make so many and that it doesn’t make sense but none of that really matters because they did it. I’m just trying to give a hypothesis of what the reasons may be.
I do think that the cold war was primarily an economic war of attrition. US bloc was ahead from the start because US was profiteering from WW2 and building out its industry while the rest of the world burned. USSR was forced into a defensive position from the very start. That said, USSR leadership lacked imagination and courage in post Stalin era. They basically tried to compete with the west using western metrics like GDP.
I’m sure at some level (setting aside the obvious desire to funnel public money into the MIC) there’s planning for how future technology might make parts of the nuclear arsenal obsolete, and redundancy built in to compensate.
Missile interception is incredibly difficult now, but in 10-20 years? Submarines are undetectable now, but in 10-20 years (see the recent post about China developing new sub detection tech)? At least through the very limited lens of nuclear planning it makes some sense to give yourself different options to be flexible in the event one part of your strategy can be effectively countered at some point.
For sure, there are also new developments happening with stuff like Burevestnik, which effectively gives missiles unlimited range. A lot of the missile defence is predicated on the idea that missiles are going to come on a particular trajectory, and Burevestnik negates that assumption. Hypersonics is another example of missiles that aren’t possible to intercept currently.