So while reading conversations between burgerlanders I’ve repeatedly stumbled upon a very specific set of bizarre and nonsensical set phrases (memes?):

  • The US is a republic, not a democracy
  • The US is a democracy, not a republic
  • Democrats want a democracy, Republicans want a republic
  • The US is neither a republic nor a democracy

What the fuck? I can’t even begin to untangle how wrong and nonsensical these phrases are, or what the thought process is to oppose these two words as if they’re mutually exclusive. Yes, yes, I know the US is not democratic from the perspective of us leftists, but from a neutral/liberal standpoint, well, it is a kind of bourgeois democracy, they present themselves as the gold standard for democracy, and one of their most famous (and ironic) imperial mottos that both parties absolutely love is “freedom and democracy”. Also, of course the US is a republic, what else would they be? A kingdom? Have they looked at pretty much every other country in the world with “Republic” in the name? Are none of them democracies? Not even the ones in The West™? The parties’ names are, as I take it, just historic names that don’t really say anything about political lines nowadays.

I know the US educational system sucks and that the average American is really politically ignorant, but where does this specific meme come from, and why is it so common? I don’t know why, but of all things burgerland, this one particularly bugs me a lot. Help me, comrades.

  • @carpe_modo
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    162 years ago

    This is largely because of liberals co-opting and twisting language from both parties. If you talk to conservatives here, for example, they legitimately do not know that they’re just conservative liberals. They think conservative is an entirely different ideology. Because they’ve been bombarded with these types of talking points constantly.

    With a lack of proper education and this going on all the time, most people really don’t understand different forms of governance or ideology. Even many educated people end up getting the meanings of these terms confused just because they’re always used in a nonsensical manner.

    • MexicanCCPBotOP
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      82 years ago

      This is what makes the most sense to me. They do say that a feature of fascist societies is an impoverished language, and there’s a very clear effort of the US establishment to misuse as many political terms as possible and conflate things that don’t have anything to do with each other when speaking in public. Because as we know, internal CIA documents and such do use political terms correctly and very precisely. Well-defined words help us understand and visualize the world around us, and without them, it becomes a lot more difficult to see reality clearly. By confusing the average person about the meaning of something as simple as “democracy”, well, it’s pretty obvious what happens.