Well, I mean, we are on lemmygrad which is a communist (marxist-leninist mostly) Lemmy instance :grimacing face:
I don’t think it’s naive or utopian to think that people can get along. But I think we will only all get along in communism, which is above all a classless society. There is not much in common between workers (such as I or probably you too) and bosses. Bosses exploit our labour to make a profit (that’s mathematically the only way profit can exist in the first place) and to some extent they realize this. So by the very nature of the capitalist system, it’s impossible for us to get along because why would I let another human being steal the fruits of my labour? And you see this in everyday life when your boss wants you to stay after work and put in some overtime but you kinda want to go home and see your family but you can’t really refuse because you need a job to pay rent and food. These are irreconcilable class contradictions and they are fundamental to capitalism.
That’s also why partisanship exists in the first place. As a worker who sees his revolutionary potential (which is basically understanding my role in our current class society), I am a communist. I couldn’t be a conservative because what would I gain from that? I have no class interest in being one. Conservatives are mostly very rich business owners, and they enjoy success in politics (not just in the United States) because neoliberalism is de facto the current leading economical theory and they can convince voters we need more of it when things start fucking up. They got the money for this, it’s not a problem. They’re also the dominant class, and we see that even social-democrat parties have a bourgeois character, meaning they often act in the interest of business owners. Everything is political, and class interests influence politics in everyone.
We see that class contradictions exist in state society and do not exist in stateless societies (of which there are a few examples today, in some tribes) and so we believe that class (which is decided by your relation to the means of production, it’s not the middle class or upper-middle class) doesn’t have to always exist. And we will finally be free and equal when class society stops existing.
“Well, I mean, we are on lemmygrad which is a communist (marxist-leninist mostly) Lemmy instance 😬”
Hehe! Fair enough. I’m new (to the whole Fediverse) and hadn’t even subscribed to any groups yet. I think I just saw the OP’s post on the main page because I had “All” instead of “Subscribed”. I know that there is a lot of crap on Reddit (as well as nearly every other social site), and felt that Reddit was being singled out (which I felt was unfair). I don’t think I’m actually on Lemmygrad, but I was able to see the post on the main page. 🙂 I don’t know—I’m just trying to get things figured out. 🙂
Well, I mean, we are on lemmygrad which is a communist (marxist-leninist mostly) Lemmy instance :grimacing face:
I don’t think it’s naive or utopian to think that people can get along. But I think we will only all get along in communism, which is above all a classless society. There is not much in common between workers (such as I or probably you too) and bosses. Bosses exploit our labour to make a profit (that’s mathematically the only way profit can exist in the first place) and to some extent they realize this. So by the very nature of the capitalist system, it’s impossible for us to get along because why would I let another human being steal the fruits of my labour? And you see this in everyday life when your boss wants you to stay after work and put in some overtime but you kinda want to go home and see your family but you can’t really refuse because you need a job to pay rent and food. These are irreconcilable class contradictions and they are fundamental to capitalism.
That’s also why partisanship exists in the first place. As a worker who sees his revolutionary potential (which is basically understanding my role in our current class society), I am a communist. I couldn’t be a conservative because what would I gain from that? I have no class interest in being one. Conservatives are mostly very rich business owners, and they enjoy success in politics (not just in the United States) because neoliberalism is de facto the current leading economical theory and they can convince voters we need more of it when things start fucking up. They got the money for this, it’s not a problem. They’re also the dominant class, and we see that even social-democrat parties have a bourgeois character, meaning they often act in the interest of business owners. Everything is political, and class interests influence politics in everyone.
We see that class contradictions exist in state society and do not exist in stateless societies (of which there are a few examples today, in some tribes) and so we believe that class (which is decided by your relation to the means of production, it’s not the middle class or upper-middle class) doesn’t have to always exist. And we will finally be free and equal when class society stops existing.
“Well, I mean, we are on lemmygrad which is a communist (marxist-leninist mostly) Lemmy instance 😬”
Hehe! Fair enough. I’m new (to the whole Fediverse) and hadn’t even subscribed to any groups yet. I think I just saw the OP’s post on the main page because I had “All” instead of “Subscribed”. I know that there is a lot of crap on Reddit (as well as nearly every other social site), and felt that Reddit was being singled out (which I felt was unfair). I don’t think I’m actually on Lemmygrad, but I was able to see the post on the main page. 🙂 I don’t know—I’m just trying to get things figured out. 🙂
FWIW the thread turns up on frontpage of lemmy.ml too. That is where I am and where I saw it.
It doesn’t. The default view is local, not all, since most servers want their front page to be only their curated content.