In light of user Wisconcom’s community Hoxhaism (created using an alternate account named Ouisconkom), and the anti-China/anti-Mao sectarianism that permeates the rhetoric of the community. It has come to our attention that some members of the community are unhappy with this sort of content being allowed.

In the past, we’ve removed other Ultra-leftists, such as Patriotic Socialists, for their sectarianism. And some of the admins feel this might be a time to do that again.

Lemmygrad’s success depends on transparency and communication between the user base and the admins, so we would like the Lemmygrad community to tell us how they feel about this possible issue.

  • @Ouisconkom
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    So you are unwilling to have your notion of “AES” be put through intellectual criticism by other Marxists who maintain a dialectial and materialist framework? Would amiable self-criticism improve our theory? Lastly, define “liberalization”, please.

    • @NothingButBits
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      182 years ago

      It’s one thing to criticize, it’s another to spout CIA talking points. By liberalization I mean the sub gets full of liberals, look at Late Stage Capitalism.

      • @Ouisconkom
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        So, for example, saying that the People’s Republic of China should return to a centrally planned economy from its present economic system is a “CIA talking point”? The criticism we may have concerns topics that are Socialistic, and something which the State Department would never care about - as they are Capitalist.

        • @cayde6ml
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          The PRC does use a centrally planned economic system. The socialist market economy is used to “fill in the gaps” so to speak. Just like the Soviet Union, Cuba, DPRK, Vietnam, Laos, Yugoslavia (except Yugoslavia had more market elements than the other socialist countries I listed.)

          The PRC primarily abides by Central Planning targets put forward by the state, with bottom-up and top-down input from specialists and proletarian representatives, and leeway given if necessary. The private/market economic activity is used to generate a higher degree of profit, while still subject to the commanding heights and regulation of the CPC. Even partially private for profit enterprises are in all but name state-owned.

          • @Ouisconkom
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            I disagree with you on a number of your arguments. However, the point of this discussion does not concern the economic system of China.

            • @cayde6ml
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              192 years ago

              With all due respect, none of what I said are arguments, I am stating facts. My arguments would be different.

              • @Ouisconkom
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                Your purported facts are false, or atleast not fully telling of the truth. I am willing to discuss this further, but not in this particular context.

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        • @NothingButBits
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          In our world we only have 5 countries that uphold the Communist banner. If you find yourself more concerned about criticizing these countries instead of building Socialism in your country, then you are useless the struggle and quite frankly reactionary.

          If you dislike how they do Socialism, then build a better one in your country. Show us how to do Socialism properly, instead of just criticizing it from the comfort of your armchair. We need Lenins, Stalins and Castros, not Bordigians of try to pass themselves as Hoxhaists.

          Fyi, China does have economic planning, a quick search on Google will show you this. It just goes to show you, how your critique of China is ill-informed. You should instead, spend more time studying them and understanding them, rather than making critiques based on Western pre-conceptions.

          • @Ouisconkom
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            Yes, that is particularly what we are attempting to do: help bulid a revolution movement which is able to create new Socialist states, and we think that Hoxhaism is the primary ideology of today which could create a better Socialist state.

            Lastly, you are correct, there still is a small amont of economic planning in the Chinese economy, however, it is no where near the levels seen in a centrally planned economy.