• ComradeSalad
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    No. This is political theater and they know this will go absolutely nowhere.

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      He was selling influence via his son though right? And he’s on camera bragging about bribing Ukraine to drop its investigation into Hunter, though I don’t know if the US would consider that a crime.

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        The selling influence stuff is tenuous if not impossible to prove as it’s mostly political speculation and the republicans doing their best to try and find a boogeyman. Plus even if it would 100% true; then everyone in congress would be guilty of that, and there’s no way they would want to risk setting a precedent.

        Could you link the Ukraine video though by any chance? That sounds interesting.

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          He was on camera bragging at a public event how he blackmailed the Ukrainian government to fire Burisma’s prosecutor, while his son was a board member. The emails and witness testimonies are pretty conclusive.

          There’s plenty of evidence. The problem is 1. Lack of political will to actually do anything substantial about it and 2. This is merely a political cudgel for the elections. The Republicans are using the impeachment in a cynical way to scare their potential voters back in line, and to keep discussion around Biden’s corruption going. A trick they aptly learned from the Democrats.

          After the elections, whoever loses will be crying how the election was stolen from them, and the cycle will begin anew.

          Btw, this is exactly how Roman politics devolved during Julius Caesar’s time and how they ended up with the dissolution of the republic by Octavian.

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            Again “He’s caught in camera”, and “There is plenty of evidence” “emails and witness testimonies”

            Can you please link your sources and the videos you are talking about???

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                A Twitter clip out of context? That’s your evidence?

                You made several claims that that clip doesn’t t support either. Cite your sources is it that hard?

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                  I’m not about to go on a 30-minute search online, only for you to come back and dispute it non-chalantly. If you are interested, find the full video, and the context behind it. This topic has been broadly covered.

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                    So you have no sources? Stop talking out of your ass then. If it was so broadly covered, why would you need 30 minutes of research? Also why would I dispute it if the research was good?

                    Evidence is the burden of the accuser and the one making claims, its not my job to fact check you making shit up.

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            You do realize that the prosecutor was fired only a year and a half after that meeting with Biden right?

            If Biden was fuming to get the guy fired then a year and a half seems like he took his sweet ass time.

            Plus that prosecutor wasn’t even the one investigating Hunter, it was the guy that replaced the fired one! So why would Biden be fine with the new guy opening an investigation but not the old guy who was corrupt as hell?

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              Did you just make all of this up? Did you not hear Biden bragging about getting him fired? Is Biden lying again?

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                He got fired half a year after Biden said he asked for the guy to be fired. Why did they wait so long? Did they forget? If I was dead set on removing a threat, I wouldn’t wait a six months to get around to it.

                Also Biden stated before that event where he “bragged” that he asked for the prosecutor to be sacked because he failed to investigate Burisma. Not because he was.

                This is basic information you could find, its not that hard to google. Stop listening to talking heads on the news.

                Plus the case had been shelved by the Ukrainian government in 2014. There was no active case going on, so what would be the point in axing the prosecutor?

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                  So now we’re down to half a year from a year and a half and still no sources. I don’t know man, I’m going to trust Jim Crow Joe on this instead of you.

                  So, not that hard to Google that you weren’t able to?

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                    Lmao, I misread the original article which said that the firing happened “the next year, six months later in March”.

                    Nice latching onto that instead of engaging anything else!

                    Whomp whomp.

                    Jesus Christ, I fucking hate Joe Biden, but all I’m asking for is sources. I don’t want to hate blindly.

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        No, his son was using his dad’s name to gain influence, but Biden had no involvement with those business deals. I’m not saying nepotism should be legal or that family members of political figures should be capable of benefiting from their relative, but there are no laws preventing this.

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          Wasn’t there something about him having to give half of his earnings to Joe? I didn’t follow that.